SID: You know, when the Messiah came to Earth some 2000 years ago, the world was a little simpler than it is today. The world was divided into two people groups. There were Jewish people, who lived in the Land of Israel, and then there were gentiles. The word “gentile” means nations. There were people that lived in all the other nations and there were people that lived in Israel. It was fairly simple. But I want you to understand there is a call by God for people that are from the gentile nations and it’s different than the call by God for people that are from Israel. Let me explain this from Scripture. Romans 11:11 says, “The call for those from the nations.” And you know what? I find very few people from the nations that know what God Himself has called you to do. So this alone is worth your watching me. Romans 11:11: “To provoke them,” that’s the Jewish people, “to jealousy salvation has come to the gentiles.” In other words, the call of the gentile is to provoke the Jew to jealousy. Meaning you’ve got something that we Jewish people want and it’s time to show it. If not now, when? Now the call of the Jew, very different. The call of the Jew is found in John, Chapter 4, Verse 22: “Salvation is of the Jews.” A gentile, someone from the nations, that believes in Jesus owes a debt of gratitude to the Jewish people because some Jewish person somewhere on a chain of people was truthful to share the Good News with gentiles. “Salvation is of the Jew.” Now if you get, if the gentiles do their job and reach the Jews, if the Jewish people do their job and reach the gentiles, guess what you got, the whole world. Oh God, you’re so marvelous. You make it so simple. We make it complex. Now the key, and very few people know this, there is a key for the judgment on nations. It’s always been, but especially in the last days, it’s increasing with intensity. You see, the judgment of God is contingent on what you do with Israel. God will punish Israel for sin, but God uses Israel to punish the nations for sin. Let me share a couple scriptures. Genesis 12:3: “I God will bless those who bless you,” that’s the Jewish people, “and curse those who treat you with contempt. All the families on Earth will be blessed through you.” Or the reverse is true. All the families of the earth if they come against you will be cursed. Again, this is so simple, but so basic. Now nine out of the 10 worst economic disasters in the history of America since the records were kept by FEMA occurred, nine out of 10, within days, hours of the United States coming against Israel. Nine out of 10 of the worst economic disasters. Obadiah 1:15: “The day is near when I the Lord will judge all godless nations. As you have done to Israel, so it will be done to you.” You say, Sid, that’s Old Testament. No. That was just the only book that the first church had, the Old Testament. They didn’t even have the New Testament. You know that. But let me give you the same thing in the New Testament for those that don’t understand it’s all God’s word. Matthew 25:40 is the separation of goat nations and sheep nations separated on one issue. Here’s the one issue: “And the king will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly I say to you, in as much you did it to one of the least of these my brethren,'” Jesus says, “You did it to me.” That’s the issue between the goat nation or sheep nation. A goat has a mind of its own. A sheep nation follows the shepherd. “As you have done to one of the least of these my brethren.” I looked up the word “brethren” in the Greek. Do you know what it means? “From the womb.” His physical brethren. Jewish people. Jesus is saying this. You see, I believe the dividing line between the true body of believers and the counterfeited will be on this single issue. And I promise you this, if you don’t understand the Jew in Israel from God’s perspective then you will go into further heresy. I promise you that. But if you do, what’s the favor of God?
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I love the rarified air of Heaven. Did you ever see the movie, “Chariots of Fire”? Did any of you see that? It’s a true story about a Christian runner and he had a line. It was so wonderful. He said, “I feel the pleasure of God when I run.” Do you remember that line? Well my guest could have a line like that, except it would be a little different. He would say, “I feel the pleasure of God when I worship God.” I told you that certain psalmists tap into certain frequencies of Heaven. We’ve had people like Julie True tap into the frequency of supernatural peace. My guest Roy Fields taps into a God hunger frequency. You, if you think you’re hungry for God now, wait until you hear this supernatural frequency that will move you into a—because it’s from the heart of God. Then everything opens up to the supernatural realm. Do you want that? Do you want that? You know, my guest has led revivals throughout the world. He’s been with Reinhart Bonnke, with Rodney Howard Brown. But I want to take you back, Roy Fields. Age 11, for the first time in your life you experienced the presence of God. What was that like?
ROY: I’ll never forget it. It was a bunch of people that were hungry for God, that had gone to church from different churches. We were at a house and they had a traditional, you know, I guess it’s a traditional Bible study. Everybody was together and there were about 40 of us packed in this living room. And these five acoustic guitar players were across the front, and they were all singing the song, “I Lift my Hands.” And I’ll never forget, Sid, I remember them singing, [singing] I lift my hands to the coming king, to the great I Am to you I sing. For you’re the one who reigns within my heart. [talking] And I was melting. I never felt anything like the warm feeling as I did that day. And I remembered in the middle of that I said, “Lord, if this is what it’s like to feel your presence, if this is what it’s like when people lead worship, I want to do this the rest of my life. I’m addicted.”
SID: Now in the midst of your revivals, you have songs downloaded to you. Tell me about the song, “Unto You.”
ROY: I was in Muskegon, Michigan in 2010, just recently. We were in a 54-day revival, and the worship would last sometimes two hours. Nobody wants to leave the room, and I love that. And in the middle of that I heard this melody. Now I’m not really a writer. I really try to hear. I try to hear what’s being sung in Heaven. I’ve never been to Heaven yet, but I try to hear that sound that I felt when I first was touched. And “Unto You”, I heard that melody. That melody was [singing] da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. [talking] I just could hear it over and over. Well two hours later, we’re all singing this thing. There weren’t even any words. It was just worshiping the Lord.
SID: You know what? I’m moved from these songs that you get from Heaven, they’re all about God as opposed to us or all the other things. I want to release you right now. I want to hear, “Unto You”, because I want you to know something is going to be downloaded as you hear Roy Fields, “Unto You.”
ROY: [music, singing] Your creation lies within, falling down before your throne. With a mighty hand unto you, Lord. There is no greater God than our king. There is no greater song we could sing. For you are holy. Lord, you are worthy. Unto you glory in the highest. All the kingdoms of this world will surrender to you, God. Forever you ascend, reign victorious. There is no greater God than our king. There is no greater song we could sing. For you are holy. Lord, you are worthy. Unto you glory in the highest. Every creature great and small, saints and angels one and all bow in reverence at your feet. Every creature great and small, saints and angels one and all bow in reverence at your feet. For you are holy, Lord, you are worthy. Unto you glory in the highest. For you are holy, Lord, you are worthy. Unto you glory in the highest. For you are holy, Lord, you are worthy. Unto you glory in the highest.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I want to live in the presence of God 24/. And more important I want you to live. It’s actually more important to me I want you to live in the supernatural of God 24/7. My guest went to Heaven and was taught by Moses, Jeremiah, Isaiah, the Word of God with the revelation of what they understood now that they’re in Heaven. And he’s been sent back here to teach you. Can you imagine how quickly you’re going to grow when you get these revelations? I can’t wait because the more I hear him share this, the deeper and deeper it gets. And as I like to say, anything my guests can do, you can do better. So you’re 18 years old. You’re Catholic. You get a free trip to Disney. You want to go Orlando. You’re 18. You want to go to the clubs. And so you need a room, not too expensive, and you rent a room, and the woman happens to be a very strong Christian that goes to a church that Benny Hinn is the pastor of, and she nags you to go. So you go to this church. What did you see?
RICH: You know, I thought it was going to be a traditional mass, you know, hour and a half.
SID: Of course.
RICH: Walk in the place. The worship was going on and there was a presence, an atmosphere of the Holy Spirit, which I didn’t know at that time. But I went up on the balcony, sat in there and instantly the presence of God came on me, and I started weeping and crying. But it was something I could not stop. So I forgot the message, I don’t know what Benny Hinn preached about. All I know is the presence of the Holy Spirit came on me. I wept. I felt like tingling going throughout my body, and I was captured in the atmosphere of God.
SID: And I mean, God is so good. He’s getting ready to go home and he hears the audible voice of God, “Do not go home. Stay in that church. Get mentored. Get discipled.” And then after that he literally, tell me about when you heard God’s voice, about the helmet.
RICH: Yes. Actually I never ended up going to Disney. I went to the church, Orlando Christian Center just about every single day, any event that was in church. Sunday night, Pastor Hinn used to have a healing service every Sunday night. I was in the healing service, touched by the presence of God. On the way back to the house a guys, “You want a ride?” I said, sure. I’m on motorcycle, wearing the helmet. I’m leaving the church. About two blocks away from the church I hear the voice of the Lord from inside of my helmet. It sounded like rain. And He said to me, “You’re not going back.” So I took the helmet out and I looked in the helmet, and I told my friend, “The Lord spoke to me.” And he goes, “What do you mean?” And I go, “He’s in the helmet.” So he stopped on the side, and he goes, “Dude, God is not inside the helmet.” And I said, “God is inside the helmet.” I had no idea how the Lord functioned. I was just saved days. And I knew right away that it was God talking to me. And the Lord says, “Don’t go back.” I stop at a pay phone and call my house and tell my father, “I’m not going back. I’m staying.” Mother says, “What?” I said, “Dad, Jesus talked to me.” And he goes, “Really?” And I said, “Yeah.” “What did he say?” I go, “He says I need to stay here.” And he goes, “Well if you don’t get on the plane tomorrow I’m going to,” and he said some really bad words, “and I’ll go get you myself and drag you back to Hawaii.” So I said to him, guess what, “I’m not going.” Hang up the phone and I stay in Florida for the next nine years.
SID: You know what? He saw so many miracles. I mean, he had visitations and just so many things. It’s hard for me to comprehend that he backslid. I guess his gifts were beyond his knowledge of how to use them and people talked, and he got hurt. And he went into business. How could you backslide after all that you saw?
RICH: You see, that’s something that I was wondering myself. I went through some things, oppositions and some trials. And you know, it’s interesting to see how little by little, you know, it’s not something that you get up in the morning and say, I’m going back, I don’t want God. You find yourself compromising. You find yourself hanging out with the people that don’t carry that same fire and passion for God. You hang out with Christians that are churchgoers, but they live in the Word, living the church. And little by little, the devil is so sneaky, little by little down the road you find yourself completely backing the things that you say you’ll never go back, you know. And that’s what happened to me.
SID: And you know, he felt he was going to have a heart attack. I mean, to him, it was a heart attack And he had a visitation from Jesus, and he went to Heaven. And when he shares about his understanding of the Glory, his understanding of the Word that was downloaded to him in Heaven, you must get closer to God. You must grow. And even those that are backslidden and they’re watching right now, come home. Be right back.
SID: Julie, what is your purpose?
JULIE: Well God told, I asked Him, what is my purpose in music and in worship, and He said, to infiltrate the earth with sounds of healing, which to me means going behind enemy lines. He recently was just showing me that it was kind of more clarification about that, that it’s going to places you wouldn’t ordinarily think of where music would go. And He said that it would actually, that my music actually could change the cellular structure of sickness and disease, and that it could actually help reshape the brains of people who had been afflicted with trauma. And so He’s not called me to be like a praise and worship leader. He didn’t say songs of praise, or whatever. He said sounds of healing.
SID: Now when these sounds go out some amazing things are going on. Tell me about that woman that had the child where what happened with the chin and with the woman. Tell me about that.
JULIE: Oh yeah. A lady wrote me and said that she keeps children in her home, and that she had been playing my music for two years, two hours a day, when she would put the children to sleep. And she said that they would just instantly be able to rest. And one little girl would get dreams of God on a regular basis. And this other child had half a chin. She was born with half a chin, and she said that she had possible learning disabilities. And after the two years of doing this, she said this child’s chin grew out normal, and that she was one of the smartest children there.
SID: Now that’s my kind of worship. How about you? Julie, you love what is called spontaneous music. What is that?
JULIE: It’s where there’s no agenda and like you just sing from your heart to God. You sing what the Spirit is doing in the atmosphere at that moment, and there’s no framework for it. There’s no boundaries.
SID: But isn’t it easier to do a rehearsed song out of a hymnal.
JULIE: Not for me it’s not. It is very challenging now. I mean, I occasionally will sing a song, just a normal song that comes up in my spirit during worship. For the most part it’s like buying a greeting card that doesn’t say what you want it to say from your heart. And so I love to be able to sing what’s in my heart to God.
SID: Okay. I want you to sing right now, “Healing in My Presence”. Do you realize in the presence of the Lord all things are possible. All is pretty inclusive. Did you hear what I just said? All things are possible in His presence. Julie True.
Julie [music, singing]: Ooo…There’s healing in your presence. There’s healing in your presence. There’s healing in your presence, oh Jesus. There’s healing in your presence. There’s healing in your presence. There’s healing in your presence, oh Jesus. There’s healing in your name. There’s healing in your name. There’s healing in your name, oh Jesus. There’s healing in your name. There’s healing in your name. There’s healing in your name, oh Jesus.
SID: You know something I don’t understand. I understand the Muslim Brotherhood. I understand their goals. But I don’t understand why they have total access to the White House. I don’t understand why they’re selling fighter jets to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Briefly, what’s wrong with the Muslim Brotherhood?
DAVID: The Muslim Brotherhood is dedicated to essentially imposing Islam over the entire world. It’s called a caliphate, and that imposes, what’s called Sharia Law, which you know, under Sharia Law, fathers can kill their daughters for perceived dishonor. It is bad news there. Bad news. And for this administration to think that they can cozy up to this type of organization is naïve at best, or it’s some very ominous shift in U.S. policy. It’s bad news.
SID: Well they actually destroy every Jew.
SID: They want to destroy Israel.
SID: And they want to destroy the United States. I wouldn’t invite these people into my home, even if it was a White House.
DAVID: And Sid, why give them F-16 fighter planes? Really? That’s the thing to do? How do you make peace in the Middle East with people who teach their grammar school kids that a good Jew is a dead Jew. I don’t see how you do it.
SID: You found an amazing pattern, an amazing common denominator from Scripture. It’s found in 1 Thessalonians 5:3. Explain that.
DAVID: And what it is actually, the bottom line is it kind of came to me from a dream, peace then sudden destruction. The thing is this. When you look at the 13 historically significant disasters that coincide to the day in most cases, except for I think two, it’s a week, with efforts to remove the Promised Land from Israel, that there are three common denominators associated with that. One is peace. They are supposed to be for peace.
SID: They’re trying to orchestrate peace.
DAVID: That’s right.
SID: So we always see that. That’s in the Bible.
DAVID: It’s peace, peace, peace, watch out
SID: When they say peace, peace, peace watch out.
DAVID: That’s right. And the other thing is though, we’ve been seen a reoccurring of destruction. Destruction has been taking place as these efforts toward peace have been launched to the day we’re seeing it in these amazing what I call coincidences. But also it’s very sudden. So this is the thing. There’s three common denominators playing like a broken record since 1991: peace and sudden destruction, peace and sudden destruction. And that particular scripture talks about how we’re to be “watchful and sober”, which means we’re to be watchful if there’s something to watch for. And perhaps it’s this message that’s coming out of these calamities that have been occurring coincidental to efforts to remove the Promised Land.
SID: Now you talk about President Obama has intentionally derailed the peace negotiations. Give me an example.
DAVID: It’s an odd thing. When he first took office, you know, usually an honest broker to bring to warring parties together is going to try and reduce issues between them to get the parties closer. Well what he did, literally, he injected a new condition, no building in East Jerusalem before talks would begin. I don’t know if that’s ever happened in the annals of diplomacy. But the president injected that.
SID: It stopped the talks.
DAVID: There were not talks. Even his biggest supporters said, why are you doing this. And they even said it looked like incompetence. That’s only the first of two times he’s done that.
SID: Okay. In your opinion there’s a reason. He is an intelligent president.
SID: Why is he doing this?
DAVID: I think the president’s ultimate goal, in terms of my reading between the lines and having studied it, is to move the peace process to the United Nations where eventually the United States will back up and say, we’re not going to veto this move on the part of the Palestinian authority to become a nation. That’s what I think it’s all about, ultimately.
SID: So it’s literally setting up the U. N.
DAVID: I believe it is, because well, we could go in depth. I know we don’t have time. But there’s a lot of other assignments to back this up.
SID: Okay. You had a dream and I have heard this dream from many prophets throughout the land. I know it’s hard for you to even talk about it. Would you tell us briefly what that dream was.
DAVID: What it is, to just sum it up, is, and I, too, have had heard a lot of people saying they were receiving dreams and warnings from God of things that are approaching our country. And that is simply that, and I mentioned this earlier about peace and sudden destruction. I feel it was shown to me in a dream. Actually, nukes detonating within the United States associated with a time when peace or so-called peace in the Middle East takes place. And I hope it’s not true. I hope it’s not true.
SID: Well I’ll tell you what. If what I know is true, and I believe it’s true because I heard this from God, that Jesus is returning very quickly. He’s coming back soon. And that’s why you read the Bible and these things don’t sound strange because of course there’s going to be things like this. I mean, many prophets have seen up through Florida and the east coast these bombs going off. But we are instructed to fear not. Now it’s one thing to say it. It’s another thing to believe it. I have friends that are believers in the Messiah and Israel, and they wouldn’t go outside without saying Psalm 91 out loud, a personalized version like, “I live in the shelter of the most high and I find rest in the shadow of the Almighty. This I declare about the Lord. You alone are my refuge, my place of safety. You are my God and I trust in you. For you will rescue me from every trap and protect me from deadly disease. You will cover me with your feathers. You will shelter me with your wings. Your faithful promises are my armor and my protection. I will not be afraid of the terrors, the night nor the arrow that flies in the day. Though a thousand fall at my side, though 10,000 are dying all around me, these evils will never touch me. No evil will conquer me. No plague will come near my home. For you will order your angels to protect me wherever I go. You will reward me with a long life. And thank you, thank you, thank you for my salvation.”
Sid: Mishpochah you are going to experience miracles as a matter of fact there is someone with a migraine headache that is being healed right now. My guest Kynan Bridges I’m so excited about the series that we’re making available called “Aggressive Faith” that’s his brand new book just off the press. And his teaching CD and the scripture cards but you see it’s not just scripture cards it’s scripture cards after you’ve read the revelation that God has given Kynan Bridges that it’s going to have such depth it’s going to change your life. Now Kynan I think it’s wonderful that you and your wife operate in this aggressive faith but you have a congregation and you’ve been teaching this for awhile; do you see people able to do what you’re doing. I mean you are fearless of sickness, you are fearless of pain; you go after it as if it’s a burglar and he’s just come in with his fists and you’re standing there with a shotgun aimed at his head. I mean are there others that feel this way?
Kynan: Absolutely Sid and it’s quite an amazing thing because a lot of times when a leader or a pastor is walking in a dimension of the supernatural it becomes infectious really you don’t every have to talk about it sometimes it’s just people adopted in their spirit by virtue of it flowing through you. And you know it reminds me of a young lady one of the young ladies on our staff whose husband was just being tormentously afflicted Sid just with coughing and it was just a horrible time. And we heard a testimony that one night her husband was coughing through the night just literally just hacking and coughing from infected sinus’s this and that and so he’s hacking and so she just intuitively Sid without even thinking about it she wakes up in the middle of the night her hand goes straight to his head and she says “I rebuke this in Jesus Name.” And she goes back to sleep, her husband begin to kinds a little bit but he’s still going through it and she get’s up one more time and says “In the Name of Jesus I command you to cease.” And Sid he was absolutely healed in that instant. It’s amazing Sid and we hear countless testimonies; one young man was on sinus medication for six and a half years, ever since he came to the United States. Sid without even going into depth about the teaching just being around this revelation just being around this thing he could not use his medication any more. Sid he didn’t need it, he didn’t need it…
Sid: Okay here’s what I want you to do in the next three minutes I want you to do what you do in your brand new book. I want you give me a scripture, unpacked it for me and then I want you to pray for the sick.
Kynan: Hallelujah well Sid I believe that the Word of God is so powerful. In Psalm Chapter 107 it says this “And He sent His Word and healed them and delivered them from all their destruction.” It also says in 2nd Corinthians 5 verse 21 it says that “We are the righteousness of God, He became the unrighteousness of God that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. And I just want to share with someone out there today you may be struggling with sickness in your body, you may be dealing with an autoimmune disorder. I see someone there they have Chrone’s disease Sid and God’s even touching you right now in the Name of Jesus Christ. There is someone with a retina you have a detached retina God’s actually restoring your retina right now in Name of Jesus. And I just want to pray for you in the Name of Jesus Christ and my wife recently was healed supernaturally of diabetes, diabetes there’s someone out there with diabetes right now and I want to tell you that the Word of God says that Jesus Christ He, He bore our sicknesses and carried our disease. And what that means is that He became the receptacle of God’s wrath on our behalf so that you and I could live in the fullness of Him. You and I could live in the fullness of Him; you know the word stripe there is referring to stripes that came on Jesus’ back through the Roman catenae tails. This was literally Sid, this was literally it was a whip that had bones and glass in side of it that would rip the flesh; well do you know that as Jesus flesh was being ripped every category of sickness and disease known to man was being removed from the born again believer. And I want to pray for you today “Father in Jesus Name I just thank you Lord for those listening Your audience today God, Father I thank you for Your healing power and Lord I release faith God in the Name of Jesus that Lord faith comes by hearing hearing by Your word. As they hear the word of God that I’m speaking right now Lord, Holy Spirit would You give them the faith to know that no longer have to be tormented by the enemy; that they no longer have to be broken but they can be healed in the Name of Jesus Christ.” There’s someone with arthritis; there’s someone with Lupus in the Name of Jesus, there’s someone with breast cancer in Jesus Name I curse cancer in Jesus name I curse Lupus, I command it to leave your body even right now in the precious Name of the Messiah Jesus we pray. Amen.
Sid: Kynan you have had some revelation about what’s going to happen in Israel; what is God showing you?
Kynan: Wow Sid, Sid wow, wow, wow it’s amazing because you have mentioned even on your broadcast the idea of the One New Man and I think that the church is in desperate need of this revelation. We need to understand the converjance of the One New Man that there, in fact in Christ there is no more Jew, there’s no more Gentile, but what Jesus refers to as One New Man I believe Sid that we’re going to see a revival a healing a supernatural revival like the world has never seen when the church begins to embrace this revelation. It’s going to come even out of Israel, you’re going to see even synagogues Sid that are going to begin flow in the supernatural power of God.
Sid: You know what I envision? I envision It’s Supernatural television having a studio in Jerusalem because I want to capture these orthodox, young orthodox Jews running around praying for the blind, having limbs growing out. I mean like if you want your faith stretched you’ll just have to watch It’s Supernatural in the near future.
Sid: By the way have you ever seen angel?
Kynan: Actually I have, (Laughing) I have.
Sid: Tell me; tell me about it.
Kynan: I want to tell you I had been praying about trying to…I wanted to see angels you know I saw one once when I was. Quickly I saw one once when I was first saved I was about fifteen years old and an angel visited me one night in my sleep. I was going through a very difficult time, I was being persecuted by even family members Sid. And one day I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw an angel hovering over me a siloet and it gazed into my eyes Sid but there was no fear. I was not afraid and as it looked at me for a few seconds and it shot away it literally disappeared it flew away like lightning. And when I woke up the next morning I heard in my spirit the word rest and the next morning I woke up with such a sense of peace that I had never experienced before. The second time was actually about, not the second time but one of the most recent times was about last year. We were our ministry was very young and we were just going through some challenges and things like that and I couldn’t press in Sid I was trying to pray, I was trying to get into the word and I just felt blockages. And one day I was praying Sid I was praying early in the morning it was about 5:00 a.m. and I turned to my right Sid and I saw an angelic being in the spirit realm, it was about ten feet tall and I looked at him and I knew by word of knowledge that his name was Joy, Joy. Now this is what happened, when I looked at this angel called Joy he poured a bucket of living water on to, it was like spirit water Sid it was cold, he poured water on top of me and when that water hit my back Sid I jumped up and a vibrant and a renewal I had never experienced before just came on me. I begin to worship God with tears in my eyes and you know what I’ve been on fire since that day. (Laughing)
Sid: (Laughing) I think anyone would be on fire. Just very briefly very briefly what do you see in America shortly in reference to the gospel?
Kynan: You know the harvest is ripe, but the labors are few. John Chapter 4 tell us this, Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman and He told her, He says listen “I have water that you don’t know anything about, this is living water that will be a well inside of you springing up into eternal life.” But there was one condition Sid, He says that “You know not who you worship, salvation is of the Jews and besides they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth for God is a Spirit.” And Sid I believe that through the economic situation, through a lot of the things that are happening there’s a lot of shifting in the government, a lot of godlessness in our society; God is going to raise up a remnant in America that understand the mystery of true worship and they’re going to be His Warriors in the end times to speak the uncompromised word of God.
Sid: You know I’m speaking to someone right now and God is saying “I want you to have a brand new beginning, I want you to have a fresh start, forget the failures you’ve had and the mistake; there is totally forgiveness and a total new beginning in God if you repent of your sins, He’s just and faithful to forgive you of all unrighteousness.”
Sid:You know I was talking on a previous show about Brother Lawrence and he wrote a little booklet called “Practicing the Presence of God.” And the thing that really impressed me about that is, here was a guy he was a dishwasher that was his job morning, noon and night. He was crippled and this is what he resolved I’m going to do everything because of the love of God everything I do.The love of God so saturated this man that people from far and wide just to be in his presence. And that reminds me of what my guest Julie true does in her worship because the scripture that I want you to mediate on this week is Psalm 103 verse 1-4 and this when I hear this I think about the ministry of Julie True. And I want you to say it out loud a number of times during the day and personalize it. “Bless the Lord oh my soul.” In other words you almost commanding your soul to bless the Lord because there’s so many distractions going on and everything going on in the atmosphere that you have to literally focus and you command your soul. You say “Bless the Lord oh my soul and all that is within me, bless His holy name.” You get that? All that is within you bless His holy name. Bless the Lord oh my soul and forget not all his benefits. And I believe his benefits come become because our soul is blessing Him; you follow? And here are His benefits “Who forgives,” well let me take it back His benefits are there for everyone but we receive His benefits that’s the key because we’re commanding every fiber of our being to bless the Lord! We’re saying “All that is within me bless His holy name. Bless the Lord oh my soul and forget not all his benefits, who forgives all my iniquities, who heals all my diseases, who redeems my life from destruction.” Boy can you see mediating of that and you will fear nothing, you will be fearless in Jesus. Now I have a prophetic word that came to my guest Julie True, and I want to read this because it really tells you who she is; this is what God said about her gift that He had placed within her. “You bring comfort to people in times of sorrow and pain, I am near to the brokenhearted and you’re music carries My nearness into people’s whole beings spirit, soul and body. You are a carrier of my peace.When I told you that you would infiltrate the earth with sounds of healing I was extending an invitation for you to release sounds into the atmosphere of this world that can actually change the cellular structure of sickness and disease. That can actually help reshape the brains of those that have experienced great trauma.”This is what’s happening when Julie plays her music. And you know Julie, what I’m visualizing as I’m reading this is that your – when you sing, and when you play the piano the words and the anointing for a supernatural peace is almost if you could see in the spirit world you would see it flying out of you and into every one that opens themself. I can really picture that.It sort of reminds me of one of the woman that heard your music and she said that literally there were brilliant colors and that came out of your music; do you remember her?
Julie: Oh yes.
Sid:Tell me about her.
Julie: She said that she was trying to…the enemy was attacking her mind from a past trauma as a child and that she started praying my music.As she laid down and began to pray that she saw these brilliant colors filling the room and that it was flowing like a current of water. And there was all these beautiful colors, and that she said she started to weep and fear left immediately.
Sid:Well, you have such a passion to love God and to love Him more and more. Why do you have such a passion like this?
Julie: Well, because I know how good He is you know it’s like when you start knowing Him as a Father and knowing Him as the one who created you just because He loved you and He wanted to love you and He wanted relationship with you. Then you want to sing to Him and you want to worship Him and you know that He loved you first, and you want to love Him back.
Sid:I want to play a little bit of one of her CDs for you what about “Thank You” how’s that sound Julie; do you think that will fit?
Julie: Sounds good.
Sid:Okay let’s hear a little bit of Julie True.
Julie True “Thank you”
Sid:That was Julie True and I have to say she is literally a carrier of supernatural peace I don’t care what you’re going through.When you listen to her music the words the notes they just explode inside of you with supernatural peace. People with insomnia sleep better, people with traumas, traumas are released and then they’re physical healing occurs. Everyone needs more peace you want to surround yourself with this music you want to play it in your car, you want to play it in your home; parents play it for their children and they sleep better at night and they dream about heaven.
Sid:There is a gift called the gift of prophesy it is a supernatural gift. I have to tell you many people that call themselves prophets I get very disappointed with because I read about the accuracy in the Tenach, in the Jewish scriptures of the prophets. I don’t see that same degree of accuracy among many people that call themselves prophets. And I have to believe their also is a lack of understanding of the gift of prophesy especially under the New Covenant. And I have on the telephone Ben and Brenda Peters that both move in the gift of prophesy and I’ve got a lot of questions for them and I believe they’ve got a lot of answers for me. I’ve just finished read their book “Prophetic Ministry Strategic Key to the Harvest” and Ben you said in your book that when you look at the people coming to the Lord in the New Testament what percentage is involved in something supernatural occurring?
Ben: Actually in the whole scripture I did a research for a previous book on signs and wonders and I discovered that it’s very clear that over 90%, somewhere between 90 and 95%, of all of the cases of conversions in scripture were the result of something supernatural occurring which did include prophetic ministry.
Sid: Well, how in the world did we slip from that to almost everything being cerebral, at least here in the west?
Ben: Well that’s a very good question over the course of time the fire of passion for God grew cold and as a result the power ebbed away and religious people had to excuse and explain their lack of power. So they came up with different doctrines to say that God didn’t do these things anymore; God doesn’t speak to people anymore like He used to. Because for one reason the Bible was complete, or the apostles were gone and so on. These had no biblical bases really; the arguments were very very weak but these were widely excepted because everyone wants to excuse the lack of power in the church.
Sid: I want to find out a bit about you and Brenda. I’m starting with Ben and this intrigues me, there was a real turning point in your relationship with the Lord and it was at Bible college tell me about that.
Ben: Okay I grew up in a very strong Christian home and I had a desire at an early age to preach it was like God drew me as a little boy when I heard a good preacher preaching and I’d feel in my hear that’s what I wanted to do.
Sid: Now by the way I see here in my notes you had quite a godly heritage.
Ben: Oh yes actually I did; both of my grandfathers were preachers, one was a Bible School Principal and a Pastor; one was an Evangelist and a Pastor and my parents grew up…
Sid: In one of my favorite places the former Soviet Union.
Ben: Yes, yes. So my parents met actually in Canada when they both were able to leave both their families they were able to leave the Soviet Union after the revelation and they met in Bible school in Mennonite Bible Schools.My grandfather on my mother’s side became an early Pentecostal Mennonite which was not a popular thing in those days. Eventually my parents were excommunicated because they wanted to teach healing and the power of the Holy Spirit; they journeyed on with the Lord and ultimately I went to a Christian Missionary…
Sid: I have to ask you a question is that the same individual one that you were just talked about your mom’s dad that had that supernatural experience in prison?
Ben: Oh yes, yes.
Sid: You got to tell me about that.
Ben: He was doing traveling ministry going from town to town and preaching the gospel. After the revolution it was a gradual take over and a gradual restriction of religious freedom that took place. But the police started to arrest him and take him into the police headquarters. The one time the Lord just told him to walk out when the man stepped out of the room. And he walked right out right passed the guard and appeared to not even see him and he just headed back home and was free to leave the country later on. So that was one of his experiences where God intervened supernaturally. My mother had had supernatural experiences as a young woman also; one time she was walking home in the dark and a light shone on her path and she thought there was a car coming behind. And those days there was just a few cars, but there was no car and that light stayed with her all the way home. So I had this heritage and I was raised to believe in the supernatural.
Sid: Okay so you’re in your first year of Bible school and there’s a prayer meeting that’s going on and the leader says to you and to everyone in the group what are your burdens.
Sid: What happened to you?
Ben: Well he was asking for prayer requests because we were having a prayer meeting he asked to get some prayer requests so we had something to pray about and this was a dorm meeting at Bible School. Immediately when he said that “Do you have any burdens?” the Holy Spirit spoke to me “You don’t have any burdens because my family is all saved” and I was enjoying Bible School, I knew people that weren’t saved but I didn’t have any I knew I should have more burdens for them and I didn’t really have any. And so when it came my turn to respond to the man the young man that was leading the prayer meeting I said “My burden is that I don’t have one.” And I chose to humble myself in that situation and be honest with the group and…
Sid: How could you be in Bible School and not have anything to pray about? It’s hard to understand, but guess what there are a lot of people we’re speaking to right now that maybe they’re praying for their immediate family but that’s about so it’s pretty similar.
Ben: Right what God was saying is I didn’t have any supernatural burden for anybody I wasn’t in intercession, I didn’t have His heart basically I knew better and I was enjoying Bible School, I wasn’t in rebellion but I just in that place of I loved the Lord, but I never penetrated His heart. I never allowed His heart to penetrate mine and change me on the inside so that I’d be passionate for His Kingdom. So at that moment God did something and from that moment on God began to draw me in a powerful way. Every morning I’d be waking up earlier than we were supposed to wake up which everything was scheduled even our devotional time after a half an hour of bathroom time 6:00 to 6:30, then 6:30 to 7:00 we were in our rooms, 7:00 was breakfast and then classes began and I was waking up earlier like 5:00 God was waking me up.
Sid: Was that something new or had you been waking up at 5:00 a.m. normally?
Ben: Absolutely new and I would get up and I would go to a place where I used to practice my voice lessons, a little piano practice room. I would get on my knees on my little piano bench and I would spend an hour to two hours every morning, mostly weeping, reading through the book of Acts and crying out for God to restore the power. What He gave me was a burden not just for a few souls but He gave me a burden for the whole church; He gave me a burden for His Kingdom, He gave me a burden for the fact that we’re so powerless in the church, and I knew it wasn’t God’s fault. I had seen some miracles, I knew that it was our fault that we had strayed from the passion of the early church; and so I…
Sid: We’re you a weeper before that personality wise or was this new to you also?
Ben: That was new; that was really new. I had a tender heart but I wasn’t one that would weep and intercession at all. But I would read through half the Book of Acts every day for every two days I’d read through the Book of Acts again and again and again. And tears would stain my Bible as I would just cry and weep and this was totally different. Then when I would leave the place…
Sid: Now correct me if I’m wrong because we’re doing this by telephone Mishpochah from their home in South Beloit, Illinois it sounds to me like you’re almost weeping as you’re speaking to me now.
Ben: It moves me when the Holy Spirit reminds me of that time in my life because that totally changed my future and my destiny. Just that when I often say “You never know when one small decision to be honest, to be humble before God can change your entire course of history, your destiny.”
Sid: Out of curiosity did you ever miss the first time the classmates are supposed to get together for whatever purpose because you were in intercession?
Ben: Well, what happened is as I said breakfast was at 7:00 and I may have been there since 5:00 – 5:15 or so, but the presence of God was so precious to me that the activity that I could hear breakfast going on it didn’t attract me because I didn’t want to leave that place. I never fasted before at all really. And I wasn’t really doing it to fast I just didn’t want to leave the presence of God until…
Sid: Now help me understand this, you didn’t want to leave the presence of God, but you had the presence of God before this you walked with the presence of God or was this a much higher dimension than you had ever experienced?
Ben: Oh this was much higher this was a whole new level, and I really believe it’s available for all of us.
Sid: Well, you know what I sense that presence is on this radio interview right now. In your heart of hearts Ben I’m holding up your new book “Prophetic Ministry.” Why did you write this, what benefit will someone have from reading it?
Ben: Well, I had written an earlier book on prophetic ministry, one of my first two books. It was no longer in print and I knew that I needed something to replace it and then God gave me a fresh revelation of the fact that in most cases where miracles began to happen prophetic ministry proceeded it. Of course the greatest example is Jesus who had a man go before Him that the people said “John did no miracle, but everything that John spoke of this Man was true.” And John spent his ministry preparing the way for Jesus by prophesying of His coming prophesying what He would do. And when He arrived on the scene John said, “Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.” And what he was doing was prophesying Jesus’ destiny that He would suffer and die for us and that He would take away our sin. And all of John’s ministry was prophesying to preparing for the miraculous.
Sid: I’m sorry we’re out of time Mishpochah…
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Cherie Calbom. And Cherie, it sounds so simple, as I read and listen to what God has taught you. The first thing you tell people to do is to detox. Why do we have to detox?
CHERIE: Because we’re surrounded with chemicals. It’s in everything. 87,000 new chemicals a year are introduced into our atmosphere. It’s sprayed on our soil, pesticides, herbicides, on and on it goes. It’s filling in from exhaust from the cars and from the factories, and it’s just permeating the world. And then on top of it, preservatives and all the stuff that they put in our food that is not good for us. And our poor livers have to process all of that. I would never think of going a year without changing the oil and filter in my car. I know what would happen. Well our livers are more important. Everything, the blood all has to go through the liver to be purified. If we don’t do anything it’s like driving your car until it dies. We’re just pushing our body with all of that gunk building up in our liver or our kidneys, or our colon, and if we never cleanse it, and we’re going to get sick.
SID: But you know, that makes so much sense to me. First, we get rid of all of the toxins, get it out of your body. Then put good stuff. Good stuff is juicing. Why is juicing so important?
CHERIE: It’s powerful. And people say, how can that one thing change my life. But it can, because it’s broken down. It’s like a pre-digestive food. It’s so easily absorbed. It can go right into your system, right into your cells, right down to the cellular it begins to change your body. And juices are loaded with vitamins, minerals, enzymes and fiber nutrients, and bio photons, a new area of research that the plants absorb from the sun taken into their cells. When we burst those cells open in juicing we liberate all of those nutrients and the energy from the sun goes into our cells, feeds the mitochondria of our cells. Those are the little energy units that produce ATP. That’s our energy fuel. So many people say to me, I’m tired. I’m dragging around. I feel fatigued. I don’t have the energy I want. Get to juicing and you will.
SID: Tell me some of the things you’ve seen helped by juicing.
CHERIE: Amazing things. Arthritis almost every time. When somebody gets on my program, both osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis. Amazing. I hear this constantly people calling me back and say, wow, the symptoms are gone. Lots of pain just gone, completely.
SID: Tell me quickly about the woman with plantar fasciitis.
CHERIE: She came to one of my seminars. She wanted to lose weight, had no idea that anything else would happen for her. She lost 11 pounds in 10 days. But she called me and said, “The most amazing thing has happened. My plantar fasciitis is gone.” And she was wearing a special shoe and she had a daycare center. Can you imagine trying to chase those little kids around with a foot that is that sore? And she said, “It is gone. What happened?” Well the hipbone is connected to the, you know. I mean, it’s all connected. We’re one whole being.
SID: But I don’t understand how juicing can get rid of pain.
CHERIE: You know, we have acids in our body that collect in certain areas and we have toxins that collect in certain areas. As you begin to alkalize your body, detoxify your body many of these acids that have caused pain begin to be neutralized, a lot of toxins go away.
SID: I’m told if your body becomes alkaline, which juice does for it, even cancer can’t grow in it.
CHERIE: Amen and thanks be to God, it’s true. And I have an amazing story of a woman that was sent home, get your affairs in order, you’re going to die, at 41 years old. At 47, she was pronounced cancer-free. She got on my program. Three and a half weeks later, a tumor the size of a fist fell out of her body. She is totally well today.
SID: Tell me why you’re so passionate about this. You are. You’re not a sales lady. You are passionate. Why?
CHERIE: You know, because I love the King of Kings and he’s called me to do this, and He said, because, “Cherie, tell them how it’s healed your body twice, not just once, but twice, when you were attacked, you had fatigue.” My adrenals were blown out. They were shot. My thyroid was shot from all of that trauma. It healed my body. It healed those things that there was no hope for then. It’s healed the chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. I’m a walking testimony of what this program does. But then in all the thousands of people, I’ve sold about three million, in all the thousands of people I’ve worked with and heard from, they are well, they are healed today. It’s the passion of my heart. Satan has perverted our food. He is drawing people away to eat all that packaged stuff and sweet stuff, and sit on the couch and eat chips and dips, and bon-bons, and expect to be healthy. We cannot do that.
SID: Okay. Let me tell you something. I don’t know about you, but I’m ready to take some of this juice. We’re going to go to the kitchen and find out what this juice really tastes like. Cherie, you put this all together so quickly. I mean, I thought it would take hours.
CHERIE: It’s fast. It’s fast, fast. I make my morning juice in a minute. Actually, I timed it.
SID: Did you get that, in a minute.
CHERIE: Here we go.
SID: Okay. Let’s test it.
CHERIE: Let’s see what happens. So I’m doing apple to start with, which is a great addition, adds a little sweetness to your juice. And then I’m going to put in some ginger root.
SID: I love ginger.
CHERIE: Isn’t it wonderful. And ginger is very rich in zinc, which is wonderful for the immune system, and it’s an anti-inflammatory. Heart disease, one of the number one contributors to heart disease is inflammation. Get this anti-inflammatory into your diet every single day.
SID: Now I have to tell you. There’s something that appeals to me so much with this, as opposed to a popular pill, a vitamin pill.
CHERIE: Yes. This is fresh. This is what God gave us. It’s from the earth. It’s alive. And do you know live food gives life to our bodies. This is live food because these vegetables take the energy from the sun and incorporate it into the cells of the plant. That’s called bio photons. Bio photons have been measured in studies in Germany and they found these light rays of energy help your cells communicate better with one another. It feeds the mitochondria, the little energy units of our cells and it gives our cells the ability to produce more ATP, that’s our energy fuel. If you’re tired, if you’re saying, I’m fatigued, I don’t have the energy I want, you’ve got to get on live food, and juice is the best live food I know.
SID: I have to tell you, I’m almost feeling, Cherie, as if I’m getting healthier, I know this is crazy, but just watching you do this.
CHERIE: And now here’s the real test.
SID: This is delicious. I never thought that vitamins and minerals could be so delicious.
CHERIE: Isn’t it amazing. It’s so amazing, isn’t it?
SID: What a way to start this day.
CHERIE: So you know, you can start with a live food drink that brings life to your body.
SID: Hello. I’m Sid Roth. Welcome to my world where it’s natural supernatural. I’ll tell you, before we started the show, the presence of God has been so strong. This will be as life changing as any show that you have ever seen. It could not happen. It’s outrageous that it happened. Married 17 years, a pastor and his wife, high profile, television ministries, love each other. But the wife had an affair, a secret affair. And out of the tragedy they have come up with supernatural keys to not just have a marriage, but have a marriage made in Heaven, to not just have a family, but a family made in Heaven. Look, the Bible says that the believer is to provoke the Jew to jealousy. You will provoke everyone to jealousy when you have a marriage that God has put together and God has made supernatural. I am so excited about what you’re ready to hear, because I am angry. We are in an anything goes society and it’s getting apparently worse by the second. I’m overwhelmed at the statistics that Bob and Audrey Meisner have revealed to me. Tell me some of them, Bob.
BOB: It’s surprising. Where we used to live in a society of moral absolutes, those things are now being eroded away. Where for men, over the age of 40, they will have had a sexual affair, about 50 to 65 percent of men, and for women, it’s about 45 to 50 percent of women over the age of 40 will have had a sexual affair. It seems as though we are over-sexed in our society, over 25 percent of all searches on the Internet have to do with sexually related searches.
BOB: Pornography being that way. Also, for husband and wives, a husband does not know. Seventy percent will not know that his wife is sexually involved in an affair or they don’t know about their sexual activity, and about 50 percent of women don’t know what’s going on between themselves with regards to an affair.
SID: No wonder marriages are troubled throughout the whole world. No wonder. This really is a strategy against you. But I’m going to tell you something, it’s not an accident that you’re watching, and God is about ready to move supernaturally in your life. Audrey, it should not have happened, but it happened to you.
AUDREY: It should not have happened, but it happened to me.
SID: You love your husband. You have three children. You’re busy, busy, busy. And then that’s one of the keys.
AUDREY: I love my husband, I love my kids and I love Jesus, and I had known Jesus since I was a little girl. We were in a full time ministry in our entire lives. All we wanted to do was be world changers. And so 17 years into our marriage, some young guy starts coming to our church, and he starts paying attention to me and flirting with me, and I thought, we need to just get you a girlfriend. But something in my heart was feeling lack, and something just invited, I was 36, I had these three kids between 10, 12 and 15 years old. And part of me, it just feels good when he tells me I’m beautiful, oh that feels nice when he gives me a little attention, thinking that there’s no way that I was even capable of ever doing anything inappropriate. Never mind an affair, I didn’t think that could even happen. So what happened was, I said, I’m in control. This friendship can be no problem. I can go in the same car with him. I don’t have to have boundaries that other people have because I’m in control. So please know the spiritual pride here, you see, because pride doesn’t [unintelligible] when you don’t think you need God in a certain situation. And so I just gave into it, and I started being friends with this guy. We started having fun together. And what I didn’t realize is that sin will take you further than you ever dreamed it could go, and the other thing, is it’s never satisfying.
SID: The inevitable occurred.
AUDREY: Yes it did.
AUDREY: The friendship was this. It was just a short trip between a friendship and sexual affair.
SID: How long did it last?
AUDREY: The sexual affair lasted three weeks.
SID: Okay. Bob, when she confessed to you, what happened to you?
BOB: I found my bride of 17 years holding my feet and cry and confess into the sin of adultery. In my mind, what am I to do? Here I am a spiritual leader in our community, a pastor. In my mind I had no answers. Immediately, I began to create a rescue plan for my life. Immediately in my mind, I was leaving. And for this purpose for her to be exposed for what she did to me, immediately I took on the cloak or a garment of the victim. I’m the innocent one here. I wanted to gather everyone around me to be able to show what she did to me. I left that room not knowing what to do, and I called a friend of mine, a pastor friend of mine. And he said, “Bob, let’s talk this evening, later this evening.” He says, “Who knows?” I said, nobody. He said, “Good, let’s keep it that way.”
SID: That’s not what you were thinking.
BOB: No. I wanted everybody involved, because I’m the innocent one here, and this isn’t just a little mistake, you know, that okay, we’ll get over and through this. But that evening we talked on the telephone. And he began to speak to me the principle of covenant, and I wanted to expose. And he says, “But the Father’s heart is to cover.” Covering has two primary principles. Proverbs 25:2, it says, “It’s God’s glory to conceal a matter and for a king to discover its understanding.” To cover is to protect, and secondly, to promote healing. You see, when we come to God He doesn’t shame us, He doesn’t expose us, rather He gathers us in and He loves us and He covers us. But He doesn’t leave us there. He says, I want to heal you. You see, I want your past to determine your future. He says, I want my love and grace to determine your future. So he begins to speak to me of the Father’s heart, and he says, “Will you have that for your wife?”
SID: Okay. It got worse. Shortly thereafter, Audrey finds out she is pregnant. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back.