MICHAEL BROWN: Hello. I’m Michael Brown filling in for Sid Roth. Welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. Baal worship in America, channeling spirits in the White House, celebrating immorality in the government, you think it’s too late for our nation, too dark in our nation, but I’m telling you we could be on the verge of the greatest outpouring in America’s history. Are you ready? I’m here with my friend Jonathan Cahn. Jonathan, your book “The Harbinger,” instant national bestseller, really impacted the nation, a warning of coming judgment. You have a new book, “The Paradigm,” which is even more explosive. Tell us about this.

 

JONATHAN CAHN: “The Paradigm” really is the master blueprint. If you can imagine, what if there was a blueprint about what’s happening right now that goes back almost 3000 years, but lies behind everything that’s happening. This is a biblical paradigm and it’s not like the other dimension of the “The Harbinger.” “The Harbinger” is showing the signs of warning of judgment. Well this is everything else. We are replaying an ancient mystery where we are right now. And it’s amazing and it is something, it’s true, it’s real and it’s there.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: Where is this paradigm found?

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Well when you look in the Bible and you look at what happened to ancient Israel, Israel knew God, but they turned away from God. They drove God out of their lives. They called evil good, they promoted immorality and they started lifting up their children as sacrifices to Baal, and they started descending. Well we are replaying that. America has known God. We’ve been replaying. We’ve been calling good evil, we’ve been promoting immorality, we’ve been lifting up our children.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: So as Israel did—

 

JONATHAN CAHN: We are doing, exactly. But here’s the thing. It’s not just a general thing. There is a specific period in Israel’s history, in the Bible, a specific period that the apostasy accelerates, it deepens where the leaders actually are promoting it now. It’s almost like a war of culture. Well that period, that special period, that’s where we are now. It’s accelerated and that is where the paradigm actually gets so specific it gives details, it gives names, it gives dates, all that. That’s the setting of “The Paradigm.”

 

MICHAEL BROWN: Let’s start, let’s focus on an individual, the king in this paradigm.

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. The culture begins where in the Bible there is a king who rises up and he is the first one who pioneers, he’s like pushing Baal worship, and the name is Ahab, or Achab in Hebrew, Ahab. And he rises up. Now he is a divided man. He was actually raised, his culture is supposed to be about God, but he’s divided. He’s compromised. He’s actually weak willed in many ways, but he launches this war. He’s the first one to actually champion from the throne Baal worship, which is the offering up of children. Now could there be a parallel? Well there is. There’s a man who is, who rises as president. He is Bill Clinton. He’s going to follow the template of Ahab. He’s a man who’s divided, he’s compromised. He actually came from the Bible Belt. He has, he’s weak willed in many ways, but he champions, he’s the first president to champion abortion from the White House. He’s the first president to champion various forms of immorality, and also, by the way, Ahab also is going to be known for scandal as well. But yes, he has someone with him. It’s the first time in Israel’s history that the Bible speaks about a team, a king and queen, both engaging in this culture war. And so who’s the other one? The other one is of course Jezebel. Again, we got to pray for everyone. But Jezebel, Jezebel, she’s the daughter of a pagan priestess, she actually, who worships Ashtoreth. This is, that was her father who worshiped that. So she’s steeped in female power. She’s goes, she’s from a cosmopolitan culture, but she moves to a conservative culture to be with her husband. Okay, that’s where he’s from. But she maintains her identity. She will champion, she will see biblical traditional values as deep-seated religious beliefs as a hindrance. She will war against them. She will also champion, she’s the champion of Baal worship. And so her main cause is the offering up of children in the end. So what is the parallel? Well it’s very clear and that is not that Bill Clinton was, not alone. It was a team for the first time in American history. You had a president and a co, kind of co-presidency and you have, she is, Hillary Clinton is an advocate of female power, advocate of abortion. She literally said deep-seated religious beliefs have to be changed.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: All right. So hang on. You’re saying that the same way that it happened in Israel, same timeframes in some prophetic sense from God is being lived out again, even to the same dates?

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Yes. Let me give you an example. Bill Clinton, when did he come on the national stage? Well he was elected as Governor of Arkansas. He goes right from there, later on he becomes President. So ’79, so when did he end? It was 2001, his office is ended. He leaves the presidency. So you have 1979 to 2001. How many years? It’s 22 years. Open up the Bible to what it says. How long was Ahab? Ahab, the days of Ahab were 22 years, the same exact.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: All right, so you have Ahab with this Jezebel. Again, we’re not calling Hillary Clinton Jezebel. We’re praying for her.

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Yes, it’s a template. You got to pray. It’s a template.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: You got to pray. It’s a template. But she brings in stuff with her, doesn’t she?

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Well what does the Bible say about Jezebel? It’s not saying that she knew what she was doing, that Hillary Clinton knew what she was dong. But Jezebel, it says literally, “Brought in priests of the gods and goddesses into the palace to the highest throne.” You see that in the Bible. Well could that happen? It may be crazy. How would it happen with the White House? Well it actually happened. In the Clinton years, what happens is the Clintons actually bring spiritual advisors, they’re not biblical, they’re new age advisors, to Camp David and to the White House, and literally, they have sessions, this is Hillary Clinton, has a woman there who’s called a high priestess who actually speaks of the goddesses. She had a goddess around her neck, an image of a goddess around her neck. She actually, the worship of these goddesses in the time of Jezebel involved channeling, involved speaking to the dead.

 

MICHAEL BROWN: Séances.

 

JONATHAN CAHN: Something like that, and actually they had channeling in the White House. Hillary Clinton was actually speaking as someone who was not, who was dead, and the actual, this woman actually spoke, she wrote a book about speaking to the gods and goddesses, and she actually mentions the goddess of Jezebel in her book. And they actually had these sessions in the White House, so even this took place. Crazy, but it actually happened in the book, “The Paradigm.”

 

MICHAEL BROWN: All right, friend, we are just getting started. You won’t believe what’s coming next.

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