SID: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. Why does a rabbi get involved in deliverance, people that have evil spirits? Why does a rabbi say, it’s so simple, you can take care of it yourself. Why does a rabbi say, everyone needs deliverance in areas of their life? Why does a rabbi say you will have unprecedented peace when you’re totally free? Anyone interested? Rabbi Schneider, when was the first time you were exposed to deliverance to demons?

RABBI SCHNEIDER: It was the mid-1980s, Sid. I was pastoring a church. There was someone that was really manifesting demons. I was called to the scene. I brought another pastor with me. I had never been exposed to it before. The only thing I knew how to do was scream. Hopefully they’d leave. And we left that episode and the other pastor that I brought with me said to me, he said, “You know, when the knife is sharp you don’t have to cut so hard.”

SID: You learned a lesson well. But then you have this Messianic Jewish congregation and you notice a lot of problems and you decide you’re going to help these people with a course. But then that created a problem. Explain.

RABBI SCHNEIDER: Exactly. Well I became aware of the fact that we’re moving deeper into the End Times more than ever. People have been infiltrated with demonic spirits. And so I got some training in this area to minister deliverance to people and we set up a team. I trained a team of people in our congregation to minister deliverances, about an eight-hour process that we bring people through. What happened, Sid, was so many people were requesting to go through the process that we ended up in a short period of time being booked out a year in advance. And every week I’d run into people that would say, I need help, I need help, I need to go through deliverance. And I’d say, “You know what, let’s get you through the deliverance process,” realizing in my heart they’re going to wait a year. And I was grieved about this I began to pray, well what can I do to solve this. I tried to raise up another deliverance team. I couldn’t find the right people with the right availability. Kept on seeking, Lord, how can I help these people, they need help today, not a year from now. And the Lord led me to start teaching on what I call self-deliverance so that the people in the congregation that needed help today that we couldn’t see for a year, they could find help today through the process of learning how to exercise the Holy Spirit within them, with the Word of God to get breakthrough through the darkness so that they could come into freedom for themselves. And so how that’s how this whole concept evolved. It was really to address a need that I saw within my congregation.

SID: There’s people watching us right now and what is this demon business? That’s not for today. We don’t have demons today. What would you say?

RABBI SCHNEIDER: You know what, that’s a great question and I think that we do live in such a sophisticated time that as you said, Sid, the term seems archaic. I like to try to speak to people on these terms. Most of us will recognize that there is such a thing as evil in the world. In other words, we can point to specific acts where, for example, a child was abused sadistically, and no one would argue that that’s evil. So the next question is, well where did that evil come from, so that then people are moving from the fact that they see evil in the world, now they’re moving into the phenomenon, okay, I see that there are such a thing as general evil. But when we speak about a demon we’re taking it one step further. We’re going beyond general evil to personal evil, that evil has intelligence and it has an agenda to destroy.

SID: What about a born-again Bible believer that says, wait a second, you’re going a little too far. I can’t have a demon. What would you say?

RABBI SCHNEIDER: Well you know, the scriptures say to us, Paul said, “Our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities of darkness.” So of course, he was speaking to believers when he said, “Our fight is not against flesh and blood.” And Peter said, “Your adversary,” speaking to believers, “the devil is roaming around like a lion looking for someone to devour.” So the New Testament is very clear that everybody is struggling against darkness.

SID: When we come back, I want you to share about how God set Rabbi Schneider free supernaturally from a dream. Yes, a dream. We’ll be right back.

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