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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I want to live in the presence of God 24/. And more important I want you to live. It’s actually more important to me I want you to live in the supernatural of God 24/7. My guest went to Heaven and was taught by Moses, Jeremiah, Isaiah, the Word of God with the revelation of what they understood now that they’re in Heaven. And he’s been sent back here to teach you. Can you imagine how quickly you’re going to grow when you get these revelations? I can’t wait because the more I hear him share this, the deeper and deeper it gets. And as I like to say, anything my guests can do, you can do better. So you’re 18 years old. You’re Catholic. You get a free trip to Disney. You want to go Orlando. You’re 18. You want to go to the clubs. And so you need a room, not too expensive, and you rent a room, and the woman happens to be a very strong Christian that goes to a church that Benny Hinn is the pastor of, and she nags you to go. So you go to this church. What did you see?

RICH: You know, I thought it was going to be a traditional mass, you know, hour and a half.

SID: Of course.

RICH: Walk in the place. The worship was going on and there was a presence, an atmosphere of the Holy Spirit, which I didn’t know at that time. But I went up on the balcony, sat in there and instantly the presence of God came on me, and I started weeping and crying. But it was something I could not stop. So I forgot the message, I don’t know what Benny Hinn preached about. All I know is the presence of the Holy Spirit came on me. I wept. I felt like tingling going throughout my body, and I was captured in the atmosphere of God.

SID: And I mean, God is so good. He’s getting ready to go home and he hears the audible voice of God, “Do not go home. Stay in that church. Get mentored. Get discipled.” And then after that he literally, tell me about when you heard God’s voice, about the helmet.

RICH: Yes. Actually I never ended up going to Disney. I went to the church, Orlando Christian Center just about every single day, any event that was in church. Sunday night, Pastor Hinn used to have a healing service every Sunday night. I was in the healing service, touched by the presence of God. On the way back to the house a guys, “You want a ride?” I said, sure. I’m on motorcycle, wearing the helmet. I’m leaving the church. About two blocks away from the church I hear the voice of the Lord from inside of my helmet. It sounded like rain. And He said to me, “You’re not going back.” So I took the helmet out and I looked in the helmet, and I told my friend, “The Lord spoke to me.” And he goes, “What do you mean?” And I go, “He’s in the helmet.” So he stopped on the side, and he goes, “Dude, God is not inside the helmet.” And I said, “God is inside the helmet.” I had no idea how the Lord functioned. I was just saved days. And I knew right away that it was God talking to me. And the Lord says, “Don’t go back.” I stop at a pay phone and call my house and tell my father, “I’m not going back. I’m staying.” Mother says, “What?” I said, “Dad, Jesus talked to me.” And he goes, “Really?” And I said, “Yeah.” “What did he say?” I go, “He says I need to stay here.” And he goes, “Well if you don’t get on the plane tomorrow I’m going to,” and he said some really bad words, “and I’ll go get you myself and drag you back to Hawaii.” So I said to him, guess what, “I’m not going.” Hang up the phone and I stay in Florida for the next nine years.

SID: You know what? He saw so many miracles. I mean, he had visitations and just so many things. It’s hard for me to comprehend that he backslid. I guess his gifts were beyond his knowledge of how to use them and people talked, and he got hurt. And he went into business. How could you backslide after all that you saw?

RICH: You see, that’s something that I was wondering myself. I went through some things, oppositions and some trials. And you know, it’s interesting to see how little by little, you know, it’s not something that you get up in the morning and say, I’m going back, I don’t want God. You find yourself compromising. You find yourself hanging out with the people that don’t carry that same fire and passion for God. You hang out with Christians that are churchgoers, but they live in the Word, living the church. And little by little, the devil is so sneaky, little by little down the road you find yourself completely backing the things that you say you’ll never go back, you know. And that’s what happened to me.

SID: And you know, he felt he was going to have a heart attack. I mean, to him, it was a heart attack And he had a visitation from Jesus, and he went to Heaven. And when he shares about his understanding of the Glory, his understanding of the Word that was downloaded to him in Heaven, you must get closer to God. You must grow. And even those that are backslidden and they’re watching right now, come home. Be right back.

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