SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Dr. Caroline Leaf, and Caroline, you were saying that the brain, just like it says in scripture, is divided wisdom, is in seven pillars. The brain is divided into seven pillars. And tell me what these pillars do for us.

DR. LEAF: Okay. So there’s seven pillars of thought. We’re a thinking being. We’re thinking all day long, even at night, and we think the results as thoughts. So as we think we each think in our own unique. And so what happens is the brain has got these seven pillars and as we are processing thoughts, like when you digest food or when a form is developed it goes through stages. Same thing with your thinking. Your thinking goes through seven different stages. So each part of the brain, for example, the front part of the brain we would call your interpersonal type of thinking, which deals with your deep thinking and so on. Your second part deals with this and all the different areas of your brain deal with something different. So each of the seven different parts. So deep thinking at the front and then more communication going towards the middle, and more logical towards that part, going to movement, musical, instinct, right to the back where we see visual spacious kinds of pictures and images. So as you are listening to me now your brain would be cycling through these seven, but in your own unique way, and that’s what’s unique.

SID: How fast?

DR. LEAF: Very. Every one to two seconds you will cycle through all seven.

SID: But it’s the combination that makes me unique from you or from you.

DR. LEAF: Exactly. It’s how you move through. So you may start at the front and then move to the back, and then move to there. I may start over there and then everyone starts at the front. But I may go there first and then go back to there. It’s just the amount of time as well that you spend.

SID: Okay. I took your test and it’s a simple test. You don’t pass or fail. It’s true or false and it’s very easy. And I took it and I have my results here, and I want you to tell me whether I’m suited for what I do. My highest one was Interpersonal. The next two–

DR. LEAF: If you wouldn’t mind stopping right there. Let me show you what that is. In other words, what happens is the second part of here, this is your interpersonal area in your order. The first one opens the door to receiving information.

SID: That was the highest.

DR. LEAF: That was your highest. So your highest, there’s no good or bad. So whatever is low is also good. It just shows you the order that you cycle through the seven and then the score simply tells you as well how long you spend in each. There’s no wrong pattern. Every single pattern is fantastic, wonderful, superb. So everyone can rest at ease because often people think, oh my goodness, I must get higher. No. Whatever you get is fantastic. So you will open the door to receiving information through interpersonal, which means that you like to ask questions and get in people’s heads, and get information in your own head through a lot of communication. And that’s why you’re a great host, because you start communication. You start getting to know people. That’s why you like to do the radio interviews because you like to ask questions, and it’s through asking questions–

SID: I have to tell you, when I read what these things meant I said, that is a pretty good test. I’m doing what I’m supposed to do. Now the next two, and they were both identical, was, as far as the numbers, was intrapersonal and linguistic.

DR. LEAF: Okay. So then what happens is you cycle, it always starts down there. So you cycled immediately to that and then you went back down there, then you cycled to here, the front. The front is intrapersonal. Intra is deep thinking, introspection, decision making, going inward. And you do that. When I watch you, you do that. You’ll ask a question and then go deep inside yourself to actually analyze and interpret that information. And so your second part helps to build a temporary memory. So you ask questions to get the information in your head. And then as you deep think you start forming a memory. Then your third one down was–

SID: Was linguistic.

DR. LEAF: Linguistic. And now that is more or less over here.

SID: But actually, the second and third were the same numbers.

DR. LEAF: The same. That can happen because it’s, tests in my clinic takes, in my clinical practice is a thousand questions. So you know, we would be able, all you do in this case like that, Sid, is you would just go back and redo the two sections and say, okay, is this an acquired skill or is this really me? And in that way you’ll distinguish and you’ll find one or two questions that you may change. ‘Cause very often we muddle up what we’ve acquired, what people learn through experience, through life with what we really like to do. And so there you’ll be able to distinguish. But let’s assume that your intro comes out second and your third, and they can be very close. They can be a point percentage. It doesn’t matter. It’s absolutely fine. So your third one was linguistic which is more or less over there. Linguistic is words. It’s the spoken and written word. And I’ve watched the way you interview. You’ve got a lot of information, lots of words. So you’re using, now your third one down is where you start to consolidate information. So now I’ve received through the first one, through asking questions. You have started building a temporary memory through going deep down inside yourself and then you’re gonna shift over to words, written or spoken words, where you are consolidating, getting that memory like kind of fixed, getting it in its place, connecting it with other memories. And what’s your next one down?

SID: Well I just wrote those three down.

DR. LEAF: Okay. So that starts describing, now you would still, so in every one to two seconds, every time, all day long, two and half thousand to 3000 times an hour, up to 60,000 times a day, as you are thinking, you’re gonna shift all the time there, there, there.

SID: Okay. I can see a young kid and you’ve given me so many examples. And when I did the radio interview of young people, that you as a mother, your own child, as a mother, understood by understanding her thinking process. But what about someone 70, 80 years old? Would it help them to know their gift?

DR. LEAF: Absolutely. Like you said, we’ve got four children and as a mother I believe I’ve become a better mother by understanding my children. I’ve had people in my clinical practice sobbing because they said, “I’ve always believed I could do that.” So to show someone that you are gifted the way you think, this is brilliant. This is what it looks like. I’ve printed out a graph. And you can do that. You could enter it into PowerPoint and print out your own graph, and see about that. I did a lot of work in schools.

SID: But when people block their gifts.

DR. LEAF: Then it’s a problem.

SID: Then what happens to them physiologically when their gifts are blocked?

DR. LEAF: Well when we block our gifts we actually use our gift. Gift is our unique way that we flip through cycles through all of these. The result of that is we’re going to build memory. So we’re gonna use a tree here to show memory. This is a tree because the nerve cells of the brain look like trees. So we talk about the magic trees of the mind. So my results of using my gift will be a creation. Now the creation that I create in my mind, because my brain is neuroplastic, which means it can grow these branches and change them, could be like this, which is the normal, natural, or it could be a negative looking tree, which I call a toxic tree or a gift blocker. It could be this black tree, a gift blocker.

SID: So if our gifts are blocked and we build memories that look like this, what happens to us physically, socially?

DR. LEAF: That is considered a gift blocker. That throws our body into stress and we don’t think clearly. Wherever I have inflammation, like for example, if I have this kind of set up more or less in this part of the brain over here where I’m pointing to now, it’s called the ACG, anterior central gyro. So I’m just using this as an example. Now that’s the part of your brain that shifts between thoughts. It’s called the gear shifting of the brain. If I have a toxic thought bolt over there, as I’m cycling through those seven loops, I get there and it’s like a big nog in the road. If you have a big tree trunk that falls over the road the highway has got a crack in it and you can’t drive through because of a big hole or if there’s a bridge you can’t–

SID: Listen, the example of the road cracking, and I’ve put my tire over that, I don’t want that. I don’t want my gift locked in any way. I want to express myself. I want to be at peace. I want to be in health. I want to have good relationships and I want to find out about these gift blockers. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.

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