sidroth on August 12th, 2017

LARRY: Welcome back to Something More. I’ve got Judy Franklin with me, and we’re talking about how you can [music ends] actually experience and encounter God – specifically God’s invitation for you – to know, and experience, and engage Him in the Heavenly realms. You know, Judy just shared a powerful story – her testimony – of how God began a process in her life of actually taking her in to the Heavenly realms where she would experience God, and Jesus. And this wouldn’t just be concept stuff; this wouldn’t just be in her imagination. I mean uh Judy, how did that all play out? Like how did you actually experience God, in this realm? Was it a physical experience? Well, I mean could you explain the nature of what it was like?

 

JUDY: I’ve been trying to explain it for 19 years now.

 

LARRY: Well we’re going to figure it out today.

 

JUDY: (laughs) Yes!

 

LARRY: No; nah. (laughs)

 

JUDY: (laughs) Um, you know, you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; and I found the Scripture, in Ephesians, where Paul

is saying, “I pray that the eyes of your heart —”

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

JUDY: “[would] be enlightened”, and I thought, “eyes of your heart”, what is that? So I did a study on it, and the “heart” actually means your spirit!

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

JUDY: “I pray that the eyes of your [spirit would] be enlightened….” So that – well my spirit has eyes!

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

JUDY: And then I thought about when Jesus was always saying, “He who has ears … let him hear.” I know there’s deaf people, but not that many that He would say it as often as He did. I realized what He was doing was talking about our spiritual ears, —

 

LARRY: Mm!

 

JUDY: and how we can hear from Him! And then I know that when you speak in tongues, that you’re speaking a spiritual language.

 

LARRY: Um hm.

 

JUDY: And in

1 Corinthians, it says the “… mind is unfruitful”, because the spirit is speaking.

 

LARRY: As we – as we close out this segment, why do you – would you tell the people why it’s

so important to have an experiential relationship with God; where it’s not just information, but it’s a relationship. And there – and it’s creating that hunger, “I want to experience God”.

 

JUDY: Well the way the Father did it with me is He – I was sitting, minding my own business, and He said, “Ronald Reagan.”

 

LARRY: (laughs)

 

JUDY: And he

was our President at that time, —

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: and I just said, “Yeah, he’s our President.”

 

LARRY: (laughs)

 

JUDY: And then He said um, “You can read about Ronald Reagan everyday”; I said, “Yes, in books and newspapers”. He said, “You can hear about him every day”; I said, “Yeah, television news, and radio”. And – and He said, “You’re affected by what he does”;

I said, “Oh yeah. He signs bills and laws into our – life”. And then He said, “How well do you know him?”

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

JUDY: “I don’t know.”

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: He says, “You can read about Me every day.”

 

LARRY: Mm.

 

JUDY: I said, “Oh yeah; the Bible, and books, and -“; He says, “You can hear about Me every day”; I said “Yeah; CDs, tapes, you know, television”. And He said, “You’re affected by what I do”; I said, “Oh, yes!” He said, “How well do you know Me?”

 

LARRY: Mm!

 

JUDY: I said, “I don’t.”

 

LARRY: Wow.

 

JUDY: “I know what the Word says about You”, —

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: “but I don’t know You.”

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: And from that time on, I wanted to know Who He was.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: And there’s a way to know Who He is! There’s a way in this realm that He takes you into, that you can go face-to-face with Him! You know the Word says if you see God you’ll die.

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: Absolutely the truth; —

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

JUDY: I almost did. But in the spiritual, you can see!

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: And I – you can be face-to-face with Him; you can see the face of God. You can – every time you look at Him, or His Son, or the Holy Spirit, all you see is love, —

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

JUDY: because that’s Who He is. He doesn’t have love; He is love!

 

LARRY: Mm!

 

JUDY: And that changes lives, when you know how much He loves you and accepts you! You become bolder, because you know He loves you!

 

LARRY: Yeah.

 

JUDY: It changes lives, to know His love!

 

LARRY: Judy, I feel – and again, I – I feel like the Holy Spirit’s really moving on this right now. And again, for those of you who are watching, what – well – when the Lord really asked Judy this question, “How well do you know me?”, what I love about her response is it was not a response of, “Oh, you know God, I’m so sorry”, feeling uh shame, or guilt; “Oh God, I don’t know You”; “Uh, I don’t know You as well as I want to”. And maybe there’s some of you who are watching where you’ve made a decision for Jesus; you’ve – you’ve said “Yes”, you’ve said, “Jesus, forgive me of my sin, be my Lord, my Savior”; but in your heart right now, even as Judy is speaking, and you’re listening to how she’s encounter God, and experienced God, there’s this hunger in your heart saying, “God, I – I – I really want to know You more; there must be more”. That’s the whole point of this – this show, is we want to expose you to the “more” of God. I’ve got good news: I – I promise you, again, there’s no shame, there’s no guilt; there’s no, “Well you don’t know God as well as you should”; there’s only this call from Heaven, that’s I believe extending out to you right now, saying, “Come up here”; there – “there is more”. And I’m not going to just bait you along and say, “There’s more of Me to experience, but you can’t have that while you’re living on Earth”; I can tell you, as a fact, that there’s more of God for you to experience here and now on Earth. And I believe the very reason that you’re hungry for more, is God birthed that hunger in you! Judy, would you mind just s- – speaking to the audience right now? And would you pray, as we get ready for our next segment where we’re going to actually take people into this process – into this process of what a Heavenly encounter looked like. Would you just pray for them, as they’re crying out, saying, “God, I want to know You more”?

 

JUDY: Yes! [music] Father, I pray right now, for all the people that are listening to this. That You so make this realm real to them; —

 

LARRY: Yes.

 

JUDY: that this is what they’ll want to go after. Father, I pray anything that would stop them, that You would point it out to them, because You want to see them more than they want to see You, because You love so perfectly. You love Your children so much, and You’re calling to all of them, “Come up here”. So we believe You to do this right now, in Jesus’ name, amen.

 

LARRY: Amen, and amen. We’ll be right back, and we’re going to actually tell you how you can engage God in this experiential realm, where you can actually “Come up here” [music ends], and experience Him [music] at a whole new level.

 

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sidroth on August 5th, 2017

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has had meetings all over the world where a hundred percent of the people in attendance get physically healed. But what happens when an incurable disease goes into his home? Many people suffer needlessly. My guest says no more! So you go to spirit-filled churches. They believe in healing, Pentecostal churches. You see a little bit and then you get hit with really a chronic back condition. And so what was your first thought when you found out what was wrong with you?

 

ART: Well I believed God could heal. I just didn’t know if he would. And you know, the doctor told me I was going to have surgery. I was going to have to go through all these things. So I just went along with it, took the pain medication I was supposed to take. He said, “You’re a little young for the surgery.” But I didn’t have a lot of hope that I would definitely be healed until the Lord started teaching me about healing ministry and I realized what was available.

 

SID: What was wrong with your back?

 

ART: I had degenerative disk disease.

 

SID: That sounds bad.

 

ART: Yes. I wasn’t allowed to lift more than 30 pounds. My back would go out two to four times a year. I’d be on strict bed rest two weeks at a time and I was miserable all the time, constant chronic pain. But the healing happened in April 2011. I started healing ministry, however, in August 2009. So for a year and a half I watched other people’s backs get healed and watched them receive the miracle that I knew Jesus paid for, for me, and just had to persevere through that and hold fast to the truth that Jesus wanted it.

 

SID: But a major, major key happened in your life when you went to Heaven. Tell me about it.

 

ART: Yes. I had this one experience where I fell on my face. In my vision I saw Heaven. I fell on my face and I was on this road that was just like reflective, really. And I saw my reflection, and I was so overwhelmed with the experience I just looked at this reflection. I said, “Jesus, I’m tired of seeing myself. I want to see you.” And in that moment my reflection spoke back and he said, “You do see me.” And that’s when I realized the reality of Galatians 2:20, that I was crucified with Christ. I no longer live. Christ lives in me. He’s there. He’s here. He’s in all of us. So Paul said to the Corinthian Church, in Chapter 11, First Corinthians, he said that, “One of the reasons that there are weak and sick, and even dead people among you is because you failed to discern the Lord’s body.” Now he says this in the context on the teaching of communion. So we easily go to the bread, somehow we’re supposed to discern Jesus in there. But the context of First Corinthians, even that whole area, is we the people are the body of Christ and we have to be walking in fellowship with each other. One of the problems we run into is, you know, people will drive for hours and hours to get to one of my meetings, but I’m like, I feel bad because I want to let them know, you know, you could have just reached out touched the person who sits next to you in church every week. That’s just as much the body of Jesus as anyone. First Corinthians 6 says that our bodies are members of Christ himself. Our bodies are members of Christ himself. That means I am a physical extension of Jesus and so is every believer who the Spirit of God dwells inside of.

 

SID: At your meetings, why do you tell one person to pray for another?

 

ART: So when I got into healing ministry I started studying the scriptures and I saw Jesus say things, like in John 14:12, he said, “Everyone who believes in me will do the same things I’ve been doing.” You know, “These signs accompany those who believe.” So I realized this was for everyone. In Acts, Chapter 5, all the believers were gathering together in Solomon’s collonade and it says just a couple of verses later that the people brought all the sick and demon-possessed, and all of them were healed. So there is a biblical precedent, post-Jesus for 100 percent results and it was happening as all the believers gathered and ministered to each other. So I just teach people how to do this, which really is just put your hand there and let Jesus do the heavy lifting, and then we turn them loose on each other and we watch what God does. I’m an ordinary believer just like anybody.

 

SID: You’re telling me anyone that’s an ordinary believer can do what you as an ordinary believer do.

 

ART: Absolutely. In fact, the first 25 years of my life, no miracles, and I prayed for lots of people to be healed. And all of a sudden when I realized Jesus wants it, he paid for it, he wouldn’t pay for something he didn’t want, that it’s something that’s available in the scriptures, and that it’s for all believers to do, I was like, oh, I’m out of excuses. There is nothing that I have to hold onto to say, well I can disqualify myself. If you believe, you fit the qualifications. If anyone says, I feel unworthy, they’re right. There is no such thing as being worthy to minister miracles. There is no such thing as being worthy of anything in the Christian life. It’s all about Jesus being worthy.

 

SID: You see tens of thousands of miracles. So what happens to Art when he develops Crohn’s disease?

 

ART: Actually, it’s interesting, the last time I was on your show I was up the night before with cramping in my stomach, wondering, God, what is going on? How do I survive this thing? And I was struggling. I had come back from Africa and had some bleeding issues, and I was afraid, did I get a parasite or what? Well it turns out I was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease about a year later. And several months after that I wrote a blog post on my website and told my readers, you know, “The only common denominator of all the miracles in the Gospels was somebody who made contact with Jesus.” And I said, “You, if you’re seeking a miracle, you need to make contact with Jesus and here’s the good news, just as we were talking, we’re the body of Christ, grab the shirtsleeve of the person next to you at church this Sunday.” And so I also said, “Now I want you to know I’m not speaking from some ivory tower telling you something that I don’t understand. I’m in this with you. I’ve got Crohn’s disease right now and I’m struggling with the pain of it. Sometimes I’m laying hands on other people with my stomach twisted in knots.” I said, “But I’m going after this thing because Jesus deserves what he paid for.” People hit “Reply” on that email list.

 

SID: Not you deserve, Jesus deserves.

 

ART: Oh come on, he deserves it.

 

SID: Do you get that?

 

ART: Yes.

 

SID: Big distinction.

 

ART: People hit “Reply” on that email list and they were writing me saying the things that I had been teaching them to do. They’re typing in there, “Crohn’s disease, leave in Jesus’ name. Be healed in Jesus’ name.” I’m reading these emails and I’m thinking to myself, this is the moment for me to take my own advice. These are ordinary people. Nobody has a clue who they are. I don’t know who they are, but that’s the body of Jesus speaking to me right now. And I said, “Jesus, I thank you for ministering to me right now.” The very next day, 80 percent of the symptoms were gone and by the end of the month, completely healed. And now it’s been over a y year.

 

SID: Now you say, okay, but Art knows a lot. Do you know what he told me? His two-year-old son can do it. If his two-year-old son can do it, so can you. We’ll be right back.

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sidroth on July 15th, 2017

SID: Eddie, why is it, it seems as though, from my observation, God goes out of his way to reach broken people, broken hearted people, addicts, people whose marriages have been destroyed, people whose health is destroyed. There are people watching us in hospitals right now. Why does God go after those people so intensely?

 

EDDIE: One, because he loves them. First and foremost, he sees you as his daughter, as his son. He loves you and has just a burning heart to see you whole and free. Second of all, he created you for his Glory and those things were not what you were created for. And so he wants to release healing and victory into your life so that you could begin to manifest what a true worshiper is all about. A true worshiper is one who worships God in spirit and in truth. In spirit, meaning you’re fascinated with God. So in spirit you’re inner man is given to the Lord and from that place of true devotion in your heart your lifestyle begins to carry out what that devotion is like.

 

SID: You talk about this broken, broken woman at the well. Tell me about her.

 

EDDIE: Well Jesus goes to Samaria and finds this woman at Jacob’s well. And at Jacob’s well she’s coming there to draw water, and Jesus, being a Jew, is interacting with this woman who her gender, her culture and her condition in her life would totally disqualify her from being in the presence of Jesus Christ. And yet, Jesus meets this woman, brings healing and deliverance into this woman’s life and she becomes a voice of worship to her community. And so when you begin to think of who God is, he’s holy, he’s faithful, he’s a refuge, he’s a fortress, he is love, he is joy, he is peace, you begin to meditate on that. Many times in the scripture, David talks about him meditating on the Lord and pondering on who God is, and just dwelling on him in your thinking, filling your inner man with the knowledge of God. That position in our heart gives way to actions. I need to be fascinated with Jesus and I’m so fascinated with him that my lifestyle is a picture of my fascination.

 

SID: Would you pray for us to be fascinated with Jesus so we can have the breakthrough we need right now.

 

EDDIE: Amen. God, in the name of Jesus, I pray, God, for the silencing of every voice that does not speak to the heart of who you are in the lives of those who are watching. And I pray, God, for an inward fascination. Father, I pray, God, when they open up the Word that the Word would be opened up to them, Father, that it would not just be pages and just letters on pages, but it would be life that something would stir in them as they begin to read, as they begin to pray. May they so sense your presence as they begin to seek your face. May they so be gripped with who you are that every day of their life all they want to do is live to your pleasure.

 

SID: In his Glory, this is where breakthrough is found. Seek to be a true worshiper. Bring your brokenness, your sin, your addictions, your sickness. In true worship you will encounter Jesus. You will encounter his glory. You will encounter breakthrough. Here’s Eddie James with “Breakthrough”.

 

Eddie James [music, singing]: You are the undefeated One, my light and my salvation, when the wicked, my enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. Omnipotent, Almighty, defender, my victory, my refuge, the One I run to, you are the God, you are the God of the breakthrough. If you have found your breakthrough tonight, clap your hands and shout breakthrough! Breakthrough, You are the God of the breakthrough and when I can’t see my way through and I really don’t know what to do. I look to You. Breakthrough. Walls fall down when I shout through. Strongholds break when I pray through so I’m gonna praise You, you are the God. You are the God of the breakthrough. Breakthrough. You are the God of the breakthrough. When I can’t see my way through and I really don’t know what to do. I look to You. Breakthrough. Walls fall down when I shout through. Strongholds break when I pray through. So I’m gonna praise You. You are the God. You are the God of the breakthrough. Breakthrough  in my heart, Breakthrough – in my mind, Breakthrough – in my spirit, Breakthrough – in my soul, Breakthrough – in my weakness. Breakthrough – in my struggle. You are the God. You are the God of the. Breakthrough – in my worship. Breakthrough – in my praise. Breakthrough – when I lift and glorify your Name. Breakthrough – when I dance. Breakthrough – when I shout. You are the God. You are the God of the. Breakthrough. You are the God of the breakthrough. When I can’t see my way through and I really don’t know what to do. I look to You. Breakthrough. Walls fall down when I shout through. Strongholds break when I pray through. So I’m gonna praise You, You are the God. You are the God of the breakthrough. Breakthrough – in my heart. Breakthrough – in my mind. Breakthrough – in my spirit. Breakthrough – in my soul. Breakthrough – in my weakness. Breakthrough – in my struggle. You are the God .You are the God of the Breakthrough – in my worship. Breakthrough – in my praise. Breakthrough – when I lift and glorify your Name. Breakthrough – when I dance. Breakthrough – when I shout. You are the God .You are the God of the, You are the God. You are the God of the breakthrough. Breakthrough.

 

Eddie James [music, singing]: In the name of Jesus…

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sidroth on July 8th, 2017

SID: Eddie, so many people are watching right now and the question they have on their heart is how do I have, isn’t that what you’re thinking, how do I have a Jesus encounter?

 

EDDIE: Well first of all, for some, a Jesus encounter, for many of us really, a Jesus encounter is something that we don’t necessarily plan. He comes and he visits, and he does something in us. But I believe that how you continue to have them is through a seeking heart. He says, “If you draw nigh to me I will draw nigh to you.” And I believe that what ends up happening, especially for believers, is that we have this moment with God and then we don’t allow the moment to provoke a lifestyle of pursuit. And I believe that we have to silence all the voices that aren’t from the Lord, everything that is being spoken into your life through music, through media, whatever. Sometimes when you just shut everything down and silence everything and begin to meditate on him, and become fascinated with him again, the encouragement here is to do your first works over again. If you can remember that day when you had such a burning heart for God that nothing else mattered but being in his presence, you need to get back that. Because I don’t care who you are, you will never get above that.

 

SID: If someone can have an understanding of true worship they can have a Jesus encounter and that’s the only real fix there is in life.

 

EDDIE: Nothing else satisfies. Nothing else can, you know, it’s interesting when you look at the story of the prodigal in the pig pen. That he was going to silence the growl of his hunger with stuff that could never satisfy, and would ultimately destroy him. That he came to himself and said, “In my father’s house, he’s got servants that live better than this.” So he realized that the place that will ultimately satisfy is in the place of his father. And I believe that for those who are watching this, you need to know that I don’t care what you turn to, I don’t care if it seems to be good, I don’t care if it seems to be a legitimate thing that’s okay to do, it was never meant to satisfy the eternal longing of the heart. The only one who can do that is Jesus. And when you live in that place, I’m telling you, there’s nothing else like it. There’s nothing more fulfilling than to know that Jesus Christ is the ultimate satisfier of your soul. I just encourage this. Take all the restrictions and all of the boundaries off and live life with Christ. Live life with him. Yes, take some time and be intimate and get by yourself, but then don’t leave that place and then act as if, okay, now I did my hour, now it’s me. No, it’s Jesus 24/7. It is Jesus consistently that he guides you, he directs you, he’s speaking into your life. He’s letting you know, watch for that, I’m proud of you for doing that, that’s awesome. Be cautious of that. And allowing that voice, that presence of Jesus to be what you live in every day. This is to me is what Enoch did. This is what Obed-Edom did and their lives were so enriched because they lived daily in the presence of the Lord.

 

SID: You know, all things are possible. Eddie, if you would go to your piano, all things are possible in the presence of God. And when you experience the presence, there’s fullness of joy.

 

EDDIE: Amen.

 

SID: Now you can’t have fullness of joy and problems at the same time. There’s no room for problems.

 

Eddie James [music, singing]: Hear the cry of the broken people (come, Yeshua, come). In need of revelation and truth (come, Yeshua, come). You’re our High Priest and the lamb slained (come, Yeshua, come). Salvation is only found in You (come, Yeshua, come). (come) Come in glory and power (come). Your people need You this hour. (come) All that You would render Heavens and manifest Your presence (come) Bring peace to Israel. (come) From the rise that moved the veil. (come) Lord, the spirit and the pride say come.

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sidroth on July 1st, 2017

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest Eddie James says if you are fascinated with God you will have a Jesus encounter. He just got back from Heaven and there is an anointing that will cause you to be fascinated with God and have your own Jesus encounter. You know, Eddie James, every time I meet someone that has known the Lord from a very young age, you provoke me to jealousy because you didn’t have to go through all the junk. I didn’t even know who Jesus was until I was 30. But you’re singing for the Lord, you’re singing in church. But one thing I’ve observed about you, yes, I love your worship ministry because you sing to God, and there’s something very special about it, but there’s something else that intrigues me. You have such a broken heart for the hurting and the lost. Obviously it came from God, but how did you get such a broken heart for the hurting?

 

EDDIE: I come from a great family. The Lord has really used our family. Our family fell on some hard times and eventually my mother and father were broken apart, and there was a definite wound that happened in my heart as a result of that. And it’s interesting how you could be ministering in church and [are] still bleeding. But the Lord has done a work in my life and I believe that that sense of brokenness plays a huge role into why my heart has been tender. I’ll never forget when I began to work with Teen Challenge, which wass my first worship leading job, which was when I did Assembly of God Church with the Teen Challenge program, they began to take in these people that would come in from the streets, and I was blown away by that. I can remember like it was yesterday, I am watching this father who had two sons that had just begin to, you know, one was nine and one was like seven, and they had just shared a scripture in front of a couple thousand people, and I’m on the keyboard. And it was great. The whole church stood up and clapped as we were kind of doing that. And as I looked to my right, the father comes to these boys, and says, “I’m so proud of you. I’m so just moved by what you did.” And I saw a picture of what I had longed for, and I began to break. I just began to weep. And I could remember that like yesterday, just that moment for some reason triggered and unlocked this deep pain that I had been carrying for so long. And it was through that experience that the people—

 

SID: There is something that happens for a true worshiper.

 

EDDIE: Yes.

 

SID: That whatever the world has done to you, you can be free.

 

EDDIE: That’s exactly right.

 

SID: You take people off the streets that are hardened, drug addicts.

 

EDDIE: Yes.

 

SID: But something just happened to you. You actually had a portal come down from Heaven. Tell me briefly about that.

 

EDDIE: The Holy Spirit just met us. We were in this extended time of seeking, fasting and prayer. The Holy Spirit hits me and I am on the floor, and I’m not just one prone to fall out. But I am on the floor and my spirit begins to go up into what I can only describe as this portal that opens up over Heaven and this, what seems to be a beam of light that connects where I’m at to the heavenly place. And my spirit begins to go into that place of glory and that place of the presence of the Lord, and there I am getting books from Heaven beginning to be put into my spirit, filled with songs or filled with just new creative writings that I would be doing in the earth. And so I would go back and forth and my spirit would go into Heaven, grab these books and then come back into my spirit, and I could feel my body responding to what the Holy Spirit is doing in me at that time. It changed my life.

 

SID: Since this visitation to Heaven, just in your worship, miracles are breaking out. Tell me a few recent miracles.

 

EDDIE: Okay. This has been awesome. So we were in the Philippines and just conducting an amazing meeting. And there was a woman in a wheelchair, she comes up to be healed, and the Lord miraculously heals this woman. She is running around the stadium. I pick up the wheelchair and I’m running around with the wheelchair behind this woman who actually is magnifying the Lord. We’re also in the streets of Manilla and there’s a, we’re doing an outreach and there’s a lady there who the doctor said that her baby was dead. There’s no heartbeat and they’re getting ready to take the baby out. And we begin to pray to release healing into this woman, and the baby begins to kick as our hands were on the lady’s stomach. Crazy stuff.

 

SID: I have to tell you, I love the pop-up miracles in Haifa, Israel.

 

EDDIE: Oh Jesus. Okay, so we were there for the Feast of Tabernacles and I’m telling you, it was an amazing moment. I’m there really just leading worship. I’m standing there getting ready to do a teaching, and as I’m doing that, they just begin to pop up and say, “I just want you to know my knees got healed.” Somebody says, “I just want you to know God just healed my back and my shoulders.” And somebody else gets up and begins to declare how God is healing them of something in their ear, something in their eye. It just pops, people just popping up sharing how God, I’m sitting here like, wow. I’m just teaching and people are celebrating.

 

SID: You’re an observer. You get to that piano, because when he plays, “Be Healed” and sings those words, watch out, pop-up miracles.

 

Eddie James [music, singing]: If your heart is broken and your spirit wounded, and you see when the one is there for you, have your troubles your tears, pain and fear, and you don’t know what to do, I have a word from Heaven today. Be healed, be healed. He said rise take your bed and go on to do his will. Be healed, be healed. Let his blood make you better ’cause Jesus breaks every fetter. You don’t have to stay the same. O Lord, be healed.

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sidroth on June 24th, 2017

SID: Steve, you talk about the delight that God has in you praying for the sick, the delight that you get back from traveling international, praying for thousands of people, having others pray for thousands of people, and you can’t get wait to get out to pray for that one person. And you use a word that I want you to talk about: “rescue.”

 

STEVE: I think rescue is a great definition for salvation, actually. And I feel like where the rhythm of God, where Jesus is moving, I always see rescue and reconciliation, and restoration. He rescues lives. There’s two ways to see it. As recently as, I don’t know, two, three weeks ago, little girl, born deaf, someone prayed for her, her ears opened, and she could hear and speak. We can say, oh her ears got healed. I’d say her life got rescued. All her possibilities, all her future, everything changed.

 

SID: Total transformation.

 

STEVE: In a moment.

 

SID: And he’s saying that you can do this. You don’t have to be a spectator anymore.

 

STEVE: Amen.

 

SID: I mean, you are hired. Come into the play. Take the starring role because, do you remember what God said to Steve? I’ve been waiting for so long for someone to pray for this person. There are people all around you that God is just waiting for someone to release his Kingdom and that someone is you. You are qualified. Tell me, teach just for a moment from one scripture and then pray for the sick.

 

STEVE: In Mark 1:40-41, the leper came to Jesus and he says, “He fell on his knees and he begged him.” He says, “If you’re willing you can make me clean. And Jesus looked at him, filled with compassion, and he said, “‘I am willing.'” The problem we have is the English language doesn’t have the richness of the Greek. He said, “I am palo,” which means not only willingness, volition, but it means pleasure. He was saying you don’t have to beg me. I’m pleased to heal you. When we get a hold of this it changes the way we pray. Now let me pray for folks out there because the Lord is going to heal you right now. So I encourage you, put your hand on that part of your body where you’ve got pain or where there is sickness and just let the Lord come to you right now. In the name of Jesus Christ, I command this pain to leave. I command pain to leave your right hip. I command the pain to leave your neck. The neck spurs go right now. I tell migraines to go right now. I speak to the right ear that’s been blocked. It opens in the name of Jesus. I tell all pain in your body to go. I tell all sickness to go in the name of Jesus Christ and I release the power of Heaven, the Divine life of Jesus into your body. Thank you, Lord.

 

SID: And I’m hearing that in your bones there are pain, anywhere in your body, in your bones there is pain. I command that pain to go in Jesus’ name. Steve, you say that many people, after they get your teaching, they say this is what I was made for.

 

STEVE: Yes.

 

SID: You told me that that would delight God. That has to so delight you, too.

 

STEVE: It does. It does. And you know, Sid, that’s part of why I go all over the developing world. We’ve taken over 1300 people with us on these journeys of compassion because their lives change, not just for 12 days, but when they go home. And it’s also why I go and I do these impact weekends because people’s lives change. They begin to understand the Gospel is bigger than they ever thought it was and that Jesus is inviting us to enter right into the rhythm of it.

 

SID: You say there is a question that anyone can ask that changes everything. What is that question?

 

STEVE: This is the question I thought all over the world. It’s five simple words: “May I pray for you?” And the problem is we, oh that’s too simple. But Christian sociologists tell us that 95 percent of believers never once in their life ask that question outside the safety of their church building or their home. When we ask that question, the Word becomes flesh. The ideal becomes realm. The Kingdom of God is released. I encourage every viewer to take a deep breath, step over the nervousness, which is normal, and the dry mouth, which is normal, and when you hear somebody at the coffee shop two tables over telling their friend, I’ve had this headache for three days, instead of thinking that’s too bad, you walk over and say, “Excuse me, I couldn’t help but hear. May I pray for you?”

 

SID: Let me tell you how faith is spelled: R-I-S-K. But guess what? After you pray for your first 200 people, you will delight in seeing lives transformed. You will delight in rescuing people. I appoint you to be normal, normal as defined by the Bible.

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sidroth on June 17th, 2017

SID: So a nine-year-old Indian boy in India hears this teaching from Steve and totally moves like someone in the Book of Acts would move that was a believer. Give me just a few nuggets that this young nine-year-old grabbed hold of that caused him to be normal, normal as defined by the Bible, not normal as defined by tradition and religion.

 

STEVE: For one thing, he would have learned that what we expect is what we see and the more we see, the more we expect, so it is a positive spiral. And he would have also heard what I shared earlier that whatever we release is what gets released from Heaven, which is what Jesus told Peter in Matthew 16:19 in this whole thing of God wanting to release the Kingdom through us. He also would have heard about the delight of God. This is such a key for me. Let me tell you briefly. I was doing a healing conference in Seoul, Korea and a mother brought her 20-year-old son to me. He came over to me. He had rheumatoid arthritis. His knees were all swelled up. So I knelt down to pray for him, and as I started to pray for him I could feel things moving around. Nobody noticed me because of all that was going on in the room. But for me, it was as if the room became silent, and I heard the Father say to me, “You really love doing this, don’t you?” I said, “Yes, Papa, I do.” And he said to me, “Me, too.” And at that moment, I just had this a-ha, he delights in healing and he delights in me, Sid, when I’m healing. He made me to pray for the sick as he made every believer and when I’m doing it I enter into his delight. Can I tell you a story, also in India, how that was released and changed a region. I took a team, you know, we head up this thing called Impact Nations, and I took a team on a journey of compassion to northern India two years ago. I had been to India many times. We went into the hardest region in India, in the Punjab. On the first day, we did a mobile medical clinic, which we do. I believe the Kingdom touches every part of life. And we were going along just fine for a couple of hours and then a family brought their paralyzed mother. They carried her in to get medicine. While she was waiting our prayer team prayed for her and she was instantly healed. What I want you to know is out of that one healing, suddenly a town of 8000, we just turned and we prayed for person after person, after person until it was dark, got up to preach and they were on the roof, on the walls, they were everywhere. And out of that one journey of compassion in that area of the Punjab, 1000 new churches were planted.

 

SID: This is not an exception. Wherever you go this is happening. But that’s India. What about some place like here, the United States? Does the Word work as good here as it does in India?

 

STEVE: Absolutely, Sid. I’ve watched in Bristol, Connecticut, when I taught a team and we went out to a housing project, and in the first 30 minutes, a woman with a blind [eye] opened. Another woman who had been in bed for three months and her husband found us and said, “Come pray.” And she was doing jumping jacks. A man who had been off on disability because he had a frozen arm that wouldn’t work, completely healed.

 

SID: But the thing that’s so amazing to me, he could tell me all these things that he does, but he doesn’t even do it much himself. He lets everyone else do it that’s never done it before to prove the power of the Word. Speaking of the power of the Word, this illustrates it better than anything I’ve ever heard of. You were in the former Soviet Union and your translator was Russian, a really nice Russian atheist, doesn’t believe a thing, just a professional doing her job, and how could you tell her to pray for someone?

 

STEVE: The Russian government actually paid for auditoriums for me and they provided this interpreter, this translator. Her name was Paulina. I would preach and she would start to translate for me.

 

Woman: [Russian]

 

STEVE: Then she’d turn and whisper and she’d say, “But Steve, you know I don’t believe.” I said, “It doesn’t matter. You’re doing great. Keep going.” And this was what was always going on. One day I came into an auditorium, a large auditorium. God was healing and the Lord spoke to me and said, “Go to the back.” There were bleachers in the back. I said, “Paulina, come, let’s go.” We went to the back and there was a woman who had very advanced liver disease. She was jaundiced, just yellow, and her stomach was very extended. I said, “Paulina, would you just put your hand on her and I want you to say this.”

 

Man: In the name of Jesus, I command the spirit to leave this woman and never come back.

 

STEVE: And she said, “But Steve, you know I don’t believe.” I said, “It doesn’t matter.”

 

Woman: “In the name of Jesus, I command the spirit of disease to leave this woman and never return.”

 

STEVE: And the woman suddenly shouted out, “Fire! Fire! I’m on fire!” And like that, her descended stomach when shoo! And her flesh was pink. This is what I see all the time. The power is in the Gospel. Romans 1:16: “The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation.

 

SID: I’ll tell you what, when we come back, I’m going to have Steve pray for you when we come back.

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sidroth on June 10th, 2017

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has trained thousands of Bible believers that never prayed for the sick, never saw miracles and they’re starting to see miracles. I mean, not minor miracles, I mean blind eyes opened, deaf ears hearing, people in wheelchairs getting out, and he says he can equip anyone to do that. Anyone interested? Me, too. You know, Steve, one of the things that I really appreciate about you is you’re saying that you don’t need to be a TV star. You don’t need to have a great gift from God of healing. All you need is the teaching of the Word and doing it. Really, people see blind eyes opened, deaf ears opened, the crippled walking, the dead raised, and they don’t have any special gifts?

 

STEVE: And they don’t have any special gifts, Sid. You know, even in the last few weeks as I’ve been to five or six nations, I’ve watched [people] who have come with me from all over the developed world with no training. I spend a day with them and we get out, and in the last few weeks I can’t even tell you how many blind eyes open, how many deaf ears open, mutes speaking because it’s our inheritance.

 

SID: I understand what you’re saying, but I’ve always been told you have to work up your faith. You start with a headache then you work for five or six years to get deaf ears open. You don’t see that as a necessity, do you?

 

STEVE: Absolutely not. You know, I think of a guy Rick, who we did some training in Africa and we finished early. I said, “Why don’t you guys just go up and pray for somebody.” And he went up, and he only made it about 300 yards, and he found a kid who was born completely deaf, and the Lord opened his ears. He didn’t have any track record. He just had discovered by spending the day together that this is part of his inheritance.

 

SID: Now you’re a spiritual father. You mentored a gentleman that has work in India.

 

STEVE: Yes.

 

SID: What did he do?

 

STEVE: Oh, he’s done wonderful things. He started with just him and his wife and he now has over 600,000 in his church.

 

SID: Did you get that, 600,000, starting with just him and his wife? Now that is growth.

 

STEVE: That is serious growth and it’s all about multiplication, not addition. You know, just in the last three and a half months, and I checked with him just before this show, he has started another 5,020 churches, over 200,000 people in the last three and a half months. So God is moving in a remarkable, remarkable way. Last year, he baptized 150,000 people and this year it will be more than that.

 

SID: There is a story you tell that it got to me. You talk about praying for a deaf mute and God speaking to you.

 

STEVE: I’ve seen the Lord do that so many times. But when I prayed for that man, here’s what happened. I took a team. We were in Mexico, actually. I took a team and the first night there was a word of knowledge and an 11-year-old boy was brought forward who had been mute his entire life. And one of the team prayed for him, not me, and he instantly spoke. Sid, it was like flicking a light switch. He just spoke fluently. The next night I was in another town. After we preached the Gospel, people came forward, a lot of people came forward and I began to pray and ask the Holy Spirit to just come and fill them. And it was a 13-year-old girl who had been deaf since she was three when she got meningitis, and suddenly her ears were open. She was crying. Her mother was crying. Everybody was just excited. I felt this sadness come over me and couldn’t understand it. So I stepped back. Nobody was looking at me, they were looking at what was going on there and I said, “Why do I feel sad?” And he said something I’ll never forget. It was one of those markers in life. He said to me, “Remember the boy last night who couldn’t speak and then he could?” I said, “Sure.” He said, “You see that girl who was deaf and now she could hear?” I said, “Yes, Papa.” He said to me, “I have been waiting for years to do that, but nobody would release it.”

 

SID: That was the statement that got to me.

 

STEVE: Sid, how much is Heaven waiting to release in all our towns and all our cities just waiting for us to release it?

 

SID: You do seminars where you teach people how to release the power of God and there was a young boy in the seminar, just nine years old. He was there just because he was waiting to go to school. That was in India, but something dramatic happened to him. He picked up a lot more than most people would have thought.

 

STEVE: It was interesting. He actually, we thought he was sleeping on the back, on the pew and but he had been learning. The next day after school, he burst in the front door and he said to his mother, “It works! It works! I did what Uncle said!” And he prayed for a friend who had been chronically sick and he was healed. Two days later, I took him, little nine-year-old Abasheik [sp] and some other young people to a very remote Indian village and I started to tell him about Jesus. A crowd gathered and then I had these young people start to pray for the sick, and nine-year-old Abasheik prayed for a 35-year-old man who had been deaf his whole life, and his ears opened, and it caused a move of God in that whole village.

 

SID: I would like to know the very first person you prayed [for] that was sick, what happened?

 

STEVE: It was in 1977, and I was a new believer. I got a phone call. My friend’s sister had been in a car accident. She had broken vertebrae, crushed discs, would I please come and pray for her. I had never prayed for anyone. I prayed for supper, that’s about it. I went to the house. I was nervous, trying to pretend I wasn’t. They’re all looking at me and I went to pray for her, and someone said, “Aren’t you going to anoint her with oil?” And I’m thinking, what is that? But on the outside, I said, “Oh yes, of course, of course.” And somebody got me a bottle of Crisco and I just let her have it because I didn’t know any different. So I prayed what might have been one of the slipperiest prayers, and I prayed and it was rather a pathetic prayer. I just kind of mumbled. I was so nervous. And when I was done they all looked at me like, that’s it? And the Lord instantly healed her. And in fact, there was a series.

 

SID: Were you shocked?

 

STEVE: You bet. I was really shocked.

 

Woman: Praise the Lord! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you, Jesus. Thank you.

 

SID: He doesn’t pray for someone else for another six years. But there was a dramatic change in his life when he was challenged. If you will pray for 200 people you’ll kick right into that gear. He did it, it worked. And when we come back I want to find out what that nine-year-old Indian learned that caused him to walk instantly in miracles. Be right back.

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sidroth on May 17th, 2017

Sid: Let me read from Romans the 11th chapter the 24th verse, “For if you were cutout of the olive tree which is wild by nature and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree. How much more will these who are natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?” You know I thought many times that here we have been grafted into a Greco-Roman olive tree but it was supposed to be the other way around. The Gentile was to be grafted into the Jewish olive tree. Won’t it be easier for Jewish people that do not know their Messiah when they can see the Jewish olive tree? I have a Hebraic scholar on the phone, a wonderful Bible teacher. I’m speaking to him at his home in Cincinnati, Kevin Howard. The reason I have him on the telephone is I’m featuring this week his book. The only word I have for this book and it’s called “The Feasts of the Lord,” is magnificent. It’s a hardback book and it has the most gorgeous artwork so that you can visualize the way Yeshua, that’s Hebrew for Jesus, observed these Biblical festivals. It’ll like bring you right into the home and see how these festivals were observed from a historical basis, from a modern basis, and most importantly from a prophetic basis. Now Kevin Howard you do this wonderfully in your book but I would like you take us through each of the 7 main festivals and explain its prophetic significance.

Kevin: Well the Lord gave 7 annual feasts or holidays for Israel. Four were spring feasts and 3 were the fall or autumn feasts. To tie it all together Paul told us clearly in Colossians 2:16, 17 that “The feasts were simply shadows of the Messiah and the Messiah was a substance.” These feasts speak prophetically of the Messiah, Jesus the Savior. Now these 7 feasts, 7 annual feasts the first one is Passover begins in spring the first feast is a one day holiday and this speaks of redemption. God redeemed Israel brought them out of Egypt, but Paul tells us clearly in Corinthians that, he says to quote him “For even Messiah our Passover Lamb has been sacrificed for us.” He says without any hesitation, any doubt at all Messiah when He died as our sacrifice He was fulfilling the Passover lamb, a very important part of His death. So prophetically Passover looks back to God’s redemption of Israel out of Egypt, but prophetically it looks forward to Jesus dying as a sin offering, as a substitute for us to redeem us from the greater bondage that of sin. So the Passover speaks of the death of the Passover Lamb, the Messiah who was yet to come. Now the 2nd holiday is Unleavened Bread it’s a 7day holiday. During that holiday only unleavened bread is eaten speaks of purity and sanctification. Prophetically that speaks of Messiah when He was in the tomb, when He was in the grave He did not decay. That was a direct fulfillment of prophecy in Psalm 19 as well as Isaiah 53, the Messiah was not to rot or decay in the grave. Why? Otherwise He’d be under the curse, He’d be a sinner, it would indicate He was a sinner but yet He was a perfect clear sacrifice. So unleavened bread speaks about the Messiah’s burial, that was one of the key points of the gospel. He would die, be buried, then He would raise again and that’s the 3rd holiday. First Fruits was the 3rd holiday that spoke of resurrection. A sheaf of grain was taken to the temple, in the days of Israel’s temple, but Paul used long and hard and with great eloquence in 1st Corinthians 15 “That Jesus is our first fruits.” And by that he said clearly “The fact that Jesus rose from the dead on First Fruits and became our first fruits is guarantee that there will be a final harvest.” That is all men, all mankind are going to raise from the dead someday. First some, the righteous, to resurrection of blessing, there’s going to be a 2nd resurrection under damnation, but… so we have 3, 3 of the 4 spring holidays. Jesus died on Passover became our Passover Lamb, He was in the grave on Feast of Unleavened Bread, He rose again on First Fruits and became our first fruits. Then 50 days later, or 50 days after Passover you have the Feast of Weeks, or what the New Testament calls Pentecost, 50th. It was on that holiday that Jesus, Messiah, sent the Holy Spirit as a fill and a guarantee and bringing in of the New Covenant which Jeremiah promised and prophesied.

Sid: Isn’t it amazing Kevin that these Biblical feasts are such prophetic shadows, but not only that even their order is exactly the way the Messiah came and died and was buried and rose, and sent the Holy Spirit.

Kevin: Exactly no mistakes with God always on schedule. So you’ve got the 4 spring feasts…

Sid: You know a lot of… well in traditional Judaism the last part, or the conclusion of Passover is Pentecost, or Shavuot. They put it all together.

Kevin: You’re right that’s the close of the Passover season. It’s really amazing when you begin to look at the holidays, at the feasts exactly how clear of a picture the Messiah it is. So I would submit to you that the New Testament clearly teaches that the Messiah in His first coming fulfilled the first 4 holidays or the spring holidays. Then there’s a long summer stretch there…

Sid: And as you pointed out yesterday isn’t it fascinating that we have this long stretch to separate the 2 appearances of the Messiah.

Kevin: Exactly.

Sid: It’s been a long stretch (laughing).

Kevin: It sure has and we look forward to His soon return. That’s really what the 3 fall feasts look forward to. Trumpets, or what is today called Rosh Hashanah…

Sid: And I might point out Mishpochah that this Friday even begins Rosh Hashanah, go ahead Kevin.

Kevin: Sure. Well those 3 holidays speak about his 2nd coming, Messiah’s 2nd coming. In just a quick thumbnail sketch, Trumpets the observance of Trumpets was with the shofar. That speaks prophetically of the Messiah’s return. Paul, the Apostle Paul, said “The Messiah’s going to return and the Lord will descend and it will be with a shout of the archangel and the trumpet of God.” The shofar is going to be blown, the Messiah’s going to begin His return, and it will be a time of great pouring out of great judgment upon the earth. It’s a… the Trumpets, the Feast of Trumpets is a very somber holiday. A time of preparing for the 6th holiday or Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, so it’s a time of preparation and time of really dealing with one’s sins and repenting. So Rosh Hashanah the beginning of the high holy days speaks of the Messiah coming in great wrath to judge the wicked but also to blow the shofar and deliver the righteous to Himself. The next holiday Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement that prophetically speaks of the Messiah dealing and meeting with Israel as a nation to bring them to repentance as a nation. Paul looked forward to this when Israel as he said in Romans chapter 11 “All Israel shall be saved.” He said “When the times of the Gentiles is finished,” or prophetically that long summer stretch of months, when that’s finished Israel’s going to be saved as a nation.

Sid: How do you picture that? How do you visualize that Kevin that event?

Kevin: Sort of like Jeremiah, sorry Zechariah chapter 12, “They are going to physically,” as a nation, “be brought into the wilderness and be brought upon Me whom they have pierced (putting the Lord through Zechariah) and mourn for Him as an only Son.” There’s a day coming when Israel is prepared, turns and repents to the Lord and all of a sudden sees and realizes that the Messiah is none other than Jesus. The one they had abhorred so here He is and so they mourn for Him as an only Son.

Sid: Well that’s 6 festivals there’s 7 one more.

Kevin: The final festival is called Tabernacles or usually in Jewish circles called Sukkot, the building of booths. That prophetically looks forward to the time when the Messiah is going to come and tabernacle, or dwell, as Zephaniah said “God will dwell among His people and of the increase of His government and peace there shall be no end. The Son of David will come, He will descend, He will usher in His kingdom and there will be peace and harmony, it will be paradise on earth, and Tabernacles speaks of that time.

Sid: Well how far away do you feel we are from the fulfillment of those last 3 festivals?

Kevin: Well the Bible doesn’t tell us obviously, you know a specific date, it tells us to be ready and to be watching.

Sid: I tell you with what’s going on in Jerusalem today, what’s going with the peace process, what’s going on with the computers, what’s going on with the sin, and the judgments coming that are actually on this earth, I really believe it could be very close.

Kevin: It could be so close and happen so quickly that those who aren’t watching and ready just catch them by surprise. I mean the Temple Mount is at the center and East Jerusalem is at the center of all the peace negotiations discussed, and things could move very quickly around those topics.

Sid: Well Kevin on the rest of the week I’d like to take each Biblical festival.

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sidroth on May 10th, 2017

Sid:  My guest by way of telephone is Ella Brunt. I’m speaking to her at her home Texas City, Texas. On July 2, 1997 she went with her 2 children at that time 6 and 8 years of age and at her little boy Cody. There was a gush of wind the sailboat tipped over and Cody went into the water. He was under the water for a good 10 minutes. He had all the vital signs of being dead. So the helicopter came they took him to the hospital. Her husband wasn’t there she called and left a message on the answering machine. When he got it what a report to hear, so he is riding to the hospital with his mother. In the meantime Ella is on her way to the hospital because Cody… the helicopter had taken him to the hospital. The doctors really gave him no chance to survive, but supernaturally Ella was standing on God’s promises. You told me that God spoke to your husband on the way to the hospital and gave him a strategy or a game plan if you will, but there was one thing that he heard that I’ve got to repeat again because it’s so important. This is what he heard from God as he was praying and driving to the hospital: “Faith filled words dominate the laws of death. Faith filled words dominate the laws of death.” What was the game plan he got that he told you when he came to the hospital and met you for the very first time?

Ella:  Okay whenever I got to the hospital he had beaten me there actually.

Sid:  Hmm.

Ella:  He had some things that he knew that through the “Faith filled words dominate the laws of death” that we had to guard whatever we spoke in this situation. Whatever came out of our mouth would either be life or death for our son. So he told me “Ella we’ll only speak words of faith and the desire to end results. Number 2 we won’t let anybody around him that won’t agree with us. We won’t let anybody around him speak death or we will… if they can’t agree with us that’s he’s going to walk out of this hospital a 100% restored we’re going to keep those kind of people away from Cody and we’re only going to speak faith filled words over him.” So that’s what we chose to do. Even though the reports were coming at us that his lungs were completely full of fluid, of saltwater and that he had brain damage. The doctors looked at us and he said “Your son is a very very sick little boy that if he lives through the night his brain will start swelling. We’ll have to drill holes in his skull. There’s massive brain damage and we won’t know for a couple of days just how severe it is. But that’s not his real problem…” I thought “Well my goodness that’s bad enough.”

Sid:  That sounds like a problem to me.

Ella:  Yeah but he said “That’s not his main problem. The main thing is his lungs from the saltwater is hemorrhaging and we can’t stop the bleeding.” So that’s one thing that they couldn’t fix. They couldn’t have medication or anything like that, then with brain damage you can’t reverse what the oxygen… whenever it’s dead it’s dead. So that was report and it was like we could hear what he was saying but it wasn’t registering for one thing and soon as he got through my husband looked him and said “Doctor I thank you for everything that you’re doing for Cody but I want you to listen to my report.” He proceeded to say that we were believers in Jesus Christ and we just wanted to go in see our son and lay our hands on him and pray the prayer of faith that we believe God to raise him up and that he would walk out of that hospital 100% normal.

Sid:  How did the doctors react?

Ella:  He just looked at us like “Bless your darling heart you’re in denial but that’s just our report. That’s what the medical facts are and as soon as we get Cody stabilized and up in ICU, PICU you will be able to see your son and we’ll allow you to go in and see him.” So there was quite a while that lapsed before we could actually see him. The news reporters were already there in the hospital so they were keeping us hidden from them. I was in a bathing suit, my daughter was in a bathing suit so they got hospital scrubs and put us in those because we were kind of giveaways for that. So we got up to the PICU floor and I looked over there and there was a group of people from our church that had already gotten there. There was about 20 people there waiting and I just kind of looked at them and they ushered quickly into the PICU unit and again the doctor up there told us the same story. Again Ted said “I thank you for your report but I want to tell you our report.” So he again said that we wanted to lay hands on our son and pray. He said “Okay you can do that.” I said “There’s about 20 people out here could they come in too?” He just looked at me and said “Okay.” I thought it was the favor of God that would let us do that but later on I found out that they did not expect him to live through the night. So whenever they do that they relax some of the rules which it was a rule in PICU that only 2 people can be beside the bed at a time. So they said “Sure they can come in they have to wash their hands and go through the sterilization procedure.” At that point I went out and told that they could come and what they would have to do. So they came in and if they couldn’t lay hands on the bed or part of Cody they laid hands on a doctor or whoever was by them.  One of our care ministers were there and Ted actually asked him as an authority in our church to pray for Cody and we would agree with him in prayer, so we did that night. Then we had to leave and they had to do some more procedures on Cody with some catheters and things like that for their life saving things. So there was time where we were just waiting for a good part of the night. We and Ted whenever we came back out told the people exactly what we were going to do. We weren’t going to speak any negative report, we were only going to speak faith over Cody and not allow anybody else that couldn’t and only speak the desired end results. We were here at the hospital they didn’t believe Cody would make it through the night and so we were just right outside the PICU doors just in a waiting pattern. People were starting to come and just show their love and concern and some other people went home to get us some clothes and take Britney and Grammy home so they could be settled in for the night.

Sid:  Now you were you… tell me the truth now, were you at this point having heard the reports from the doctors knowing what’s going on backing down some in your faith stance?

Ella:  If I would allow my mind to think of him all I could think of is getting a picture of him reaching out to me in panic. My heart went out to him knowing that he hates anything medically and if he would wake up to see all this stuff on him, but also there was just a supernatural peace, that’s all I could say, is a supernatural peace because I usually faint at the site of needles and that sort of thing. So all the paraphernalia that was on Cody at the time it was just supernatural for me to even to stand beside that bed and look at my son at this point hooked up to all this.

Sid:  Ella we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.

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