Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has a master’s from a Baptist seminary, doctorate from a Methodist seminary, and would you believe he loves to cast demons out of Christians, oy vez!

Sid Roth has spent over 40 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: I’m seated here with Rodney Hogue. Rodney.

RODNEY: What up?

SID: You’re just going to a nice Baptist seminary and there’s a guest lecturer and he’s going along, you like what he’s saying and all of a sudden he starts talking about demons. Why did you get so rattled?

RODNEY: Well, actually it was all over with. The class was over and I’m just talking with this … And it was a pastor, and he was just telling us about his day. And he said, “Today we ministered to three people who had demons.” And first of all I got pretty excited because I’m thinking, oh my goodness. I mean here we are, this is New Testament stuff. So I’m thinking, we’re going to do something here and I’m going to learn something. And then he said, “And two of them were Christians”. I go, “Oh no.”

RODNEY: The first thought to my head, I don’t believe in this. I just don’t believe this. Now, in reality I never had really thought this thing through. I mean, I didn’t really have a developed theology because it just never crossed my mind. But I just had this strong thought that I just don’t believe in this. Now I realize those thoughts, they weren’t my thoughts, but at that time I thought those were my thoughts.

SID: Sure. Someone has a thought, you think it’s your thought, not necessarily coming from you, but go ahead.

RODNEY: Yeah. So I said, “I don’t believe in this.” But the next thing was, I had to get out of there. I’m like, I got to get out of this place, I made an excuse, oh my goodness, I need to go home. I’m in my car and I’m driving home and I’m thinking, how does this happen? How does a Christian have a demon? I’m just wondering how this is happening. And then the Holy Spirit invades my thinking and speaks to me so clearly, it wasn’t audible, but it was pretty close. And he says, “Rodney, that’s what you have.” [laughter] I said…

SID: Anyone want to hear from God? Anyone want to hear that?

RODNEY: Well, I mean, I just got mad. I mean, I was like, I wasn’t even thinking that at that time, I just got mad and I said, “You can’t have me. You don’t belong to me. In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to leave me,” and I felt this thing leave me.

SID: The thing you don’t believe that Christian’s can have.

RODNEY: And that’s what I thought. I go, oh no, I’ve just had an experience that I don’t believe in. But I wasn’t telling anybody, I didn’t tell my wife. I certainly wasn’t going to tell this guy. I had to think this thing-

SID: There’s a big debate, and so let me address the question head on. Can a Christian have a demon?

RODNEY: Well, I did and I’m a Christian. But one of the things I had to work through is really the language that’s in the New Testament, because that, word demon possession, that word possession is really not a very good translation from the original Greek.

SID: What should it be?

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