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SID: Tom, how in the world did Washington D.C. and the Vatican have these masonic symbols and buildings, etc.? Where did that come from?

TOM: Well again, it goes back to the influences of these early Freemasons who had an idea about how they wanted to build what we would call an occult democracy. For instance, you can go to the Library of Congress website and read an article called, “The Most Approved Plan”. And this goes back to early America, where they were advertising for different architectural firms to submit their plan about how the capitol city could be built. And after all the plans came in our own government website says they were all rejected because Thomas Jefferson wanted a plan that would be based similar to the design in Rome, where you would have a dome facing an obelisk. And furthermore, he wanted it dedicated to all pagan gods. That’s on our own government website. That’s exactly what’s written.

SID: So this represents the sexual organs that say the Washington Monument and you say the Capitol represents that. What does that mean in Masonic and cultic terms?

TOM: Well because the Freemasons, a great deal of their mysticism is based on ancient Egyptian magic. And this design, a dome, which is the ever-pregnant belly of Isis in their mythology facing an obelisk, which is the erect manhood of the god Osiris, was a magic utility. This was designed in ancient Egypt for one purpose, and that was to raise from the underworld the spirit of Osiris so he could take his place in the Pharaoh so that the country, Egypt, could have divine representation in their king. Well that’s exactly the template you have laid out in Washington, D.C. It’s exactly the template you have at the Vatican.

SID: Why is it the same things in the Vatican?

TOM: Same thing at the Vatican where you have a dome facing an obelisk. As a matter of fact, the obelisk in St. Peter’s Square was removed from the ancient city of Heliopolis where it was built and dedicated to the god Osiris. And when they took it to the Vatican and when Pope Sixtus had it put in the middle of the square there, he actually performed an exorcism on it trying to expel the demon of Osiris from the obelisk.

SID: And again, this Osiris is the same, it’s a code for Antichrist of the New Covenant.

TOM: Well it is the god Apollo to the Greeks. In fact, you see that marriage, not only on the Great Seal. Look at the Statue of Liberty, which was built by Eiffel, the famous Eiffel Tower building, built by French Freemasons.

SID: That’s occult, too?

TOM: Well it is. According to its own literature, you can look it up and read it yourself, it was built to have the body of Isis, which was dedicated to Osiris and the head of Apollo. So once again, it is the marriage of the Egyptian Osiris and the Greek god Apollo, which is one and the same, according to many ancient historians.

SID: Now you say there’s a masonic significance even to 9/11.

TOM: Well we believe there is. And without getting bogged down, President George W. Bush, January 20th, 2001, he steps up, he gives his inaugural and twice he refers to the “angel that rides in the whirlwind and directs the storm.”

SID: Where did that term come from?

TOM: That is a Freemason, well first of all, it’s an occultic term. It refers to Metatron.  There’s various things for the angel and the whirlwind. But for years, in fact for at least a decade before 9-1-1, occultists said that when it became time to initiate the New World Order the code word would be “the angel and the whirlwind.” And if you go in where I have been, into the house of the temple, the headquarters of the 33rd degree Masons, they have a dedicatory in there to George W. Bush for donating more than a million dollars to help propagate Freemasonry in the United States. And I voted for him, so I’m not picking on him.

SID: You know, this is a very persuasive thing. This isn’t just some random speculation. Now why do you say the years 2012 to 2016, something very significant involving the Antichrist will occur? Why do you say that?

TOM: Well first of all, I got on that because there is a 500-year-old Mayan prophecy that said that in the colony count in 1776, there would be a 13-step countdown ending in the year 2012. And when you read the prophecy, it is literally 300 years earlier describing the Great Seal of the United States. We have 1776, 13 steps over which is hovering the all-seeing eye, which is a prophecy of the return of that god, starting in 2012 through 2016. But also many other ancient cultures, ancient Jews, the Hindu and their Kali Yuga calendar, even, Sid, even turn-of-the-century Protestant reformers like “old sinners in the hands of an angry god.”

SID: Right.

TOM: Jonathan Edwards wrote in his letters, which are preserved in universities, that he believed the Antichrist would appear between the years 2012 and 2016. We found that redundancy over and over, and the question became, what was motivating these people? By what inspiration were people for both hundreds of years and thousands of years persuaded that the end would begin in the year 2012 through the year 2016. Why did they believe that?

SID: What do you believe?

TOM: Well I believe when I look around the world today two things are going to happen. One, we definitely could see the emergence of the man of sin any time now, and that also leads me to believe that we could have one of the greatest revivals in the history of humanity at any moment.

SID: I’m looking forward to that. What was one of the most amazing things, briefly, that you found?

TOM: Well one of the most amazing things had to be that of Chilam Balam.

SID: Who?

TOM: A Mayan prophet.

SID: Okay.

TOM: Three hundred years ago. But you know what was cool about it? Because this guy converted to Christianity as result of the—

SID: I thought the Mayans missed it.

TOM: Oh, the Spanish came in and they brought with the Gospel, and this was university level work that was done. When interpreting these ancient prophecies at the university level, they found that this guy had given his life to the Lord. So now, it put a brand new twist on how and why would he be talking about the colony count, 1776, and basically describing the Great Seal of the United States. It put a whole different kind of fascination on the whole thing. Despise not prophesying, right? Did this young convert, at one time, he was one of the worst pagans, did he indeed receive a revelation from God? He may have.

SID: But I thought the Mayans predicted and they missed the date.

TOM: No, they never said that. In fact, I’m on many TV shows and conferences that you can watch on You Tube, for the last 10 years, saying they never said that. What they said is actually more interesting. They said the end of 2012 would end an era and then a new and final dispensation of man would begin. Now that’s more interesting.

SID: Ask the question I posed to you. I posed to you, if you have to have some special DNA put into you so you’ll live much longer, so you won’t get cancer and dread diseases, and that’s the Mark of the Beast, will you accept it? You say, “No.” But I tell you this, if you do not know God, do you know what Jesus said? This is eternal life, that you might know Him. It didn’t say just I believe in him and I also believe in Santa Claus and I believe in lots of things or you go to a church that’s just religious. This is eternal life, that you might know him. Make him your Lord. Repent of your sins and start reading the Bible, and start worshiping God by doing what He says. You don’t know when your end is going to come. You get right with God now. You get to know Him now. This is eternal life.

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