SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Mel Bond. And Mel, one of the things you told me is that demons prevent believers from being all that God’s called them to be.

MEL: Absolutely.

SID: Explain a little more.

MEL: Oh I’d love to talk about this for two hours, but we don’t have time. But basically, the Lord showed me that until a person, a hundred percent of them wants to be rid of this problem, that demon still has authority and he’s still can rule. And so I’d like to say people within the sound of my voice, ministries you’ll never be and people will never be everything that God wants you to be, and you’ll never have everything God wants you to have as long as there’s one percent of you that doesn’t mind that fault or that problem that you’re dealing with. If you don’t mind it being there you’ve got to with your whole heart, the Word of God says that “You will find me if you seek me with your whole heart.” If there’s one percent, those demons, they know, and they have rights to stay there, and you know they’re still there. And so they need to with their whole heart live for God, and then they can have everything that God wants them to have and be everything that God wants them to be.

SID: You know, what you’re saying is true in a thought with me. A friend of mine was watching the Oprah show and there was a woman that was a well known country singer that said as a child she had thoughts of being a lesbian, and she prayed to God and God didn’t take it way. So she felt that’s the way God made me. I love God, but this is the way God made me. Do you believe that that’s a demon that perhaps she had that one or two percent holding back?

MEL: Absolutely. Here’s one of the things people don’t realize. We are at war with the devil. 2 Corinthians 10, the Bible says that “Tho we walk in the flesh we do not war after the flesh. The weapons of warfare, they’re not carnal, but they’re mighty through God.” And then it goes on and it teaches us this is the progressional step of how people become demon-possessed. It’s first thoughts. And after thoughts then imagination, then the stronghold. And so we’ve got to get rid of those thoughts, because those thoughts are after. They’re gonna open, I call thoughts demons that are door-openers. That if we keep entertaining a thought he’ll open up the door to let a worse demon come into our life. Then we become obsessed. And then after a period of time of being obsessed we become possessed of the devil.

SID: Mel, tell me about the time that you had chest pains.

MEL: Okay. This goes back, if you remember the interviews prior, people who listen to this, back in 1973, when Jesus took me down that corridor, that demon, that big tall demon that was trying to claw my eyes out, well I started having chest pains earlier than that. It was in 1972. In fact, it was October 22, 1972, and I started having chest pains, horrible chest pains. I thought I was gonna die. And I fought those chest pains for many years. And then it was right around 1990, that I woke up in the middle of the night and I had see that same demon that was in that corridor and he had his right index finger in my chest wrapped around my heart, and it was just like what woke me up was because of the fact that I had such horrible chest pains, worse than they had ever been, and it was like I knew I was gonna die any second. It’s just like I knew that I knew, that I knew. But when I woke up because of the pain I see that demon standing over the top of me with his index finger wrapped around my heart, and faster than machine gun bullets again, the spirit of God spoke to me and He says, “You don’t have heart problems. It’s that demon. Get rid of the demon and the problem is gone.” And so I rebuked him. I told him in Jesus’ name, “You have to leave.” And then immediately he started pulling his finger out of my chest very slowly, and by the time he pulled his finger, as he was pulling his finger out of my chest that the pain decreased. And then when it was totally out and he was standing there he started just disappearing right in front of my eyes. And within, it probably took about 20 minutes to half an hour, and all the pain left, and just micro portions of it, I mean just microscopic little hints of it would try to come back every now and then for maybe a couple of years, and I knew it was that demon. And so I just said, “No, no, no, you’re not coming back. In Jesus’ name I have authority over you.” And it would leave. And so now it’s been, my goodness, I don’t know how many years, not an ounce of any kind of chest pains or any problem.

SID: Well in your own life the doctors told you and your wife you had one chance in 100,000 of having a normal baby born.

MEL: That’s right.

SID: And I’ll tell you what, when we come back we’ll talk about that. Don’t go away. Be right back.

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