SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with JonathanWelton. And Jonathan had the most miraculous thing happen. A prophet said that he was a seer. That means he can see into the invisible world and that for 30 days his eyes were opened and he could see. He could tell if someone was a believer, if they were a non-believer. He would see words. What type of words might you see over a person?
JONATHAN: Well I saw a lot of words that might say “depression”, “unforgiveness”, “bitterness”, “resentment”, “fear”, things that usually were negative.
SID: Now when you see the words, is it like just the word? Is it like a chalkboard? What do you really see?
JONATHAN: Well sometimes it would be written on an object that was stuck in a person. You might see, you know, we use the phrase someone’s been “stabbed in back”.
SID: Yes.
JONATHAN: And so there might be the word “rejection” written on the sword stuck in someone’s back.
SID: Tell me about the woman that had these eight-foot swords, spears in her.
JONATHAN: Yeah, this was wild. I had seen a lot of things. But the Lord started to teach me that these objects had to do with physical healings. And one of the key verses was Proverbs 12:18, and it says, “Reckless words pierce like a sword.” And “The tongue of the wise brings healing.” So I said, “Lord, give me the tongue of the wise.” I had this lady come and she sat down in a chair at one of my meetings where I was praying for healing, and she looked like a pincushion. She had spears in the Spirit that were sticking out in every direction, about eight to ten feet. And on each spear it had a word. It had “fear”. It had “rejection”, “unforgiveness”, “bitterness”. And I got close to her and I said, as I always do, “Can I lay hands on you to pray?”
And this was the first and only time she said, “No, please don’t” because it physically hurt if you touched her. And I said, “Well can I tell you what I’m seeing?” And I described it to her. And she said, “Well that makes sense because I’m all these medications for fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, Epstein Barr virus and social anxiety disorders as well.” So when someone gets within the eight to ten feet range of her, her body, she feels it. She feels it stir up.
SID: So it’s almost like you were seeing in the Spirit what was reflecting in the physical.
JONATHAN: Exactly. That’s the best way to say it. And so I said, “Well honey, let me pray for you and let’s remove these spears.” And so we began to pray through fears of forgiveness and releasing those people who had hurt her, and we prayed for about an hour and a half. By the time we were done she got up, gave me a great big hug, and she’s been confirmed now from the doctors as well being completely healed.
SID: Now why did you do this praying? Why couldn’t you just reach over and just pull each spear out?
JONATHAN: Well that’s a great question, because some people have done that, but the wound is still there. If you pull out the object but you haven’t dealt with the wound that caused then the person is just in spirit. They’re just bleeding and wounded.
SID: And you went to Brazil, and I can just picture this, and he was introduced to a worship leader, Davi Silva, and this worship leader prayed over you. What happened?
JONATHAN: Well Davi openly sees in the Spirit, and so I wanted to have information—
SID: And by the way, he had a marvelous encounter with the Lord in healing.
JONATHAN: Yes.
SID: Tell me just briefly about that.
JONATHAN: Yeah. Davi Silva was born with Downs Syndrome. At seven years old he saw Jesus walk into his bedroom, reach out and touch him, and his mind was completely healed. And so he’s now in his mid-40s. He’s one of the main worship leaders in Brazil. And he still looks like he has Downs Syndrome, but his mind is completely healed.
SID: What did the doctors say about this?
JONATHAN: Well they have a convention each year and he’s been invited several times. He’s had chances to be studied, to be examined, to share his testimony of what happened. And he’s had about 60 doctors accept that Jesus who came and touched them as their personal Lord as well.
SID: Because there’s no other explanation.
JONATHAN: A testimony like that is just incredible.
SID: Okay. So he prays for you an impartation.
JONATHAN: Yes.
SID: What happens?
JONATHAN: Well so he prays a very simple pray: “Lord, give him what I have that he would see more in the spirit.” And he goes to start worship. Well I’m standing near the front row and I see two 15-foot angels on the stage like I had never seen before. They were actually surrounded by fire that came out of them about six feet. So they’re 15 feet tall. They have six feet of fire around them. And I’m not thinking, oh this is wonderful. I’m thinking I’m scared out of my mind. I need to get away from this. But in that moment where I’m thinking to run I’d see the angel closest to me start walking towards me. He puts his hand out and touches my chest, and I hit the floor curled up in a ball. I feel this fire cover my body. I’m laying there making a pool of sweat. I have my nice clothes on. I’m in Brazil on a cement dusty floor, and I’m covered with fire in the Spirit, and I begin to see things in the audience.
SID: Like what?
JONATHAN: Well I saw smaller fire angels the size of a person with fire about a foot coming out of them. They were joining in with the worship, and the crowd looked like it was on fire. As it was coming to be on fire I saw a dark cloud roll in over the meeting, and I thought, well that must be bad. But the presence of the Lord was in the cloud, and I said I’ll have to look that up later, which I did. And throughout Exodus and Deuteronomy we find the presence of the Father, the Father God when he shows up is in a dark cloud. And so I see the Father show up in this meeting, and we had tremendous healings break out during that day.
SID: Now what is going on with you when you’re on the floor?
JONATHAN: Well I’m laying there and in my heart I hear the words, “new mantle”. And I didn’t see it, but I just heard “new mantle”. I start to feel water. It sounded so real in the natural. It felt so real. I was looking at the front row thinking, who’s flashing water on me and trying to figure this out in the natural. And so I didn’t know until later I actually caught up with Davi Silva, and I said, “Okay, I’m gonna be a little scientific here. You tell me what you saw tonight.” So Davi shared with me everything I just shared with you, but he also added that the angel when he touched me, he threw a mantle over me and it had fire coming off the top and it had water dripping off the bottom, which was the water that I felt splashing across me.
SID: You know what I think is so amazing is that everything that you were seeing in the Spirit, he saw the same thing.
JONATHAN: Yes.
SID: Now who told who first?
JONATHAN: Well I said, being scientific, I’m gonna have him share with me, because I wanted him to confirm what I had seen. So he shared first and it confirmed everything that I had seen that evening.
SID: Now this new mantle that you received, I mean, some amazing things are going on in your life. Tell me about this woman with ovarian cancer.
JONATHAN: Oh this was amazing. This last summer I was out in Washington State, and I got a call that there was a lady who was 83 who was dying of Stage IV ovarian cancer, and they asked if I would come and pray. And so I drove out to where she was. She had just started her second round of chemotherapy. She had her ovary removed and they said, they closed her back up and said, “We got 90 percent of it, but other 10 we can’t operate on. You have four months to live. Just go home. Do the chemo, but it’s not gonna help. You’re too old.” And I talked to her and said, “You know, the Lord will take you home, but He wants to take you home with dignity. He doesn’t want to take you home with cancer. That’s not how the Lord works when He takes people home.” And so we agreed together. And there were some objects in the Spirit that we prayed through, some forgiveness prayers and some prayers about fear for her grandkids. And so we prayed those through for about an hour. And we didn’t see anything tremendous happen at that moment. But I call two weeks later. She went into her doctor two weeks later. He came in with a chart and he said, “I don’t know quite how to tell you this, but you’re 100 percent cancer-free.”
SID: Well you know what? I believe that’s going to be someone’s report that’s watching us right now. The Lord does not want to take you home with cancer. Cancer is not from Him. Would you pray right now that cancer leave?
JONATHAN: Absolutely. If you have cancer, would you just place your hand wherever that is right now. And we speak to that cancer in Jesus’ name. We command you to die. We command that cancer to leave your body. I speak Heaven into your body that it would be on Earth as it is in Heaven. There is no cancer in Heaven and we command that cancer to dry up and be gone. I speak health by the power of the Holy Spirit. I speak health into your body in Jesus’ name right now.
SID: And when you do the activation exercises and read this book by JONATHAN Welton, devil watch out. You’re on notice because your discernment of spirit is going to grow. We’ll be right back after this word.
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